PitMan71

Try stretching the roof hole out to the edge. The only issue is there will be separate walls (Dormer wall on top of the first floor wall) and I don't think that is your ultimate intention. Anyway, hope you get it. This is a cool looking small house.

Same here.... I bet that has something to do with project management turned on.

I looked into this.... I see what you are referring to... The only way that I can find to do this is to do the math and make the adjustment or explode the dormer. If not exploded you can't dimension to the dimension layer of the walls in it. The only way I could find to dimension it was to drag grips to it and that wasn't attached to the wall dimension layer. The dormer tool is really nice. These improvements would make it better and more useful, IMO.

Totally get that..... I wonder if it's something Chief fixed in a later version?

I had this come up a week or so ago. In a section view, drag the bottom of the joist more toward the roof and it should clip it. Also, there might need to be a railing wall or beam there for it to recognize that there is something to bear on. In my case, there was an exterior wall. I just drug the joist toward the roof and the system clipped it. You can always just turn off framing layer in that view AND you might be able to apply a profile to those ends if the above doesn't work. That ways my backup plan. Just remember you can only scarf cut a joist so much before its structural integrity is compromised.

it is.... As Chris mentioned. Occasionally, I will change the display to different floors depending on where I need to see it at the time. Generally tho I show the roof on the first floor OR on the floor where it mostly bears. I have moments like that too. BUT, I just remind myself that I had way more of those moments when I used SoftPlan. AND a lot of those moments are self imposed.

Once you get the walls showing you will probably need to change them to rail walls so you can set the height. Under railing style panel check specify railing, select "Solid". Then on newels/Balusters panel set height.

"Roof over this room" is the only thing that should be checked.

In the Rooms default settings, the function is set to "Open Below" Changing that should fix the floor disappearing. See your other post for an image showing you how to find that.

I think this might be due to the fact that the "Santuary Expansion" Room function is set to "Open Below". When I changed that the floor showed up. hope this helps.

The stair landing is clipping the walls underneath. I would do your stage as a 3d object so it ignores that or raise the floor in that space.

Check the structure panel of both rooms. I think you have "Roof over this room" clicked in only one.

Click on the roof. There is are a couple buttons that become available. One moves the roof plane up and the other vice versa.

Thanks to all of you who commented... I downloaded and installed X17 today. Look is it's not much different than X16. I also pulled in one of my plans.... I didn't save it but I also didn't see anything wonky in it. So far so good.

Anybody use X16 and X17 at the same time for different projects? Or did you upgrade and move everything to the new version? I feel it would be best to finish X16 projects in X16 and start new projects in X17. Anyway, I am concerned that X16 projects near completion in X17 might have some unknown adjustments if I import them. Thanks in advance.

Might want to combine your posts on this topic.

Manual Roofs. On the plan draw with CAD lines where you want the roof to extend to and resulting angled perimeter lines. THEN, on your plan select one of the roof planes. Grab the grip at the gable ridge and drag it out to where your cad lines intersect. Then do the same with the opposite roof plane. Drawing the lines may not be necessary if you are just going for a certain angle that the roof edge will snap to. I like the CAD lines in cases like this to determine plan wise exactly where I want the roof to extend to. Have fun with it.

Once you understand manual roofs they are not that difficult. Typically I use automatic roofs up until I get close on my plans and it's time for elevations. That allows me to maximize Chief Automatically building as much of the roof as possible. Then I modify as needed with manual roofs until I get the look I want. Using manual roofs does require you understand how roofs work. If you know what you re going for, manual roofs will in most cases get you there. You will want to get familiar with the roof intersection tool to show you where different height, pitched roofs intersect. I find it best to click on the roof being intersected, then activate the tool, then click on the intersecting roof's edge that will intersect at a point. Find a video and watch it for more details. Also, be sure and get familiar with roof baselines. There are videos out there on that subject as well. this video was helpful to me. Good luck.

Im not sure what you are asking. Maybe a visual example of what you are referring to might help.

Manual roofs.

There is also a setting under the wall definition telling chief how to align your foundation walls to the first floor wall type. I think this only applies when chief builds the foundation for you. BUT this is helpful when getting your foundation started so you don't have to move foundation walls and such. This string is on the "Wall Properties" panel.

Hey. I have had this issue as well. I have had to do work arounds for it AND I have put in a ticket with chief to improve the overall wall cleanups giving the user more control since more often that not there are situations like this that require finesse and don't fall in line with the wall directives, while they work to your advantage most of the time, work against you sometimes. Post your plan and maybe someone in the forum can help find a work around or solution.

This used to baffle me as well..... In my experience that happens when an attic wall is generated above for some reason such as in situations like @Chrisb222 said.

Does anyone have a catch all note to cover the way chief reports header heights of windows in attics, or in an attic wall created for a vaulted ceiling? It usually reports it from the ceiling height in the room below, but that can be confusing. I have considered not including it and just report on the elevations, but I feel that having the information in the schedule is useful. Anyway, just curious what everyone else is doing. Thanks in advance.