HumbleChief

Hold down the alt key and drag to create arc...

They might be pasting in to a layer that's turned off? Not sure why anyone would ever want to do that but Chief behaves like that so after pasting item and before hitting enter open the item and select the layer you want to paste it to. I know it sounds dumb but sometimes it works.

Very basic and lightweight huh?

Can't reproduce the problem in a new plan. No matter where the solid ends up nothing happens to the visual - it remains the same through all iterations, as one would expect; second floor; pulled way up in to sun light; sun light changed; it still looks good - in this new plan. Tried all kinds of different things and could not get it to misbehave. Must be plan specific and it seems that some understand the mechanics when it does misbehave, I'm not that interested and will use other methods when confronted with PBR materials behaving badly. Hey would that be PBRMBB?

Yes great tip but why do material behave this way and how would anyone guess at this behavior?

Yeah that works as an extra step but wouldn't it be nice to have a template plan that you open and all your relevant plan views are there waiting in their respective tabs? Still love 'em.

This is awesome but I wish you could save a plan with many plan view tabs open, and then have all last open plan view tabs (instead of just one) open when re-opening the plan file.

Yeah this a great feature of plan views...+1

Tried those simple changes and the beams were still light blue. No doubt your suggestions have merit but it's a bit stupid to have to deal with 'light leaks' and other anomalies when using PBR. It should just work without having to lower the sun for an 'interior' PBR view or turn down the sun to 100 because the sun affects the display of material 'inside' the building. I assume Chief is working on these issues but hey maybe not. I don't care. I don't have time to deal with all the issues and will find other ways to present as I really don't need PBR. Every time I've tried it's been hours of wasted time. Do I even want to learn? Not so sure for the small gains in quality Always appreciate your excellent help.

Yeah thanks, never really had any trouble with that interior/exterior side of an interior wall and will remember your advice...

THANK YOU - will explore when I get time....

Snagit...

Yeah thanks Rene. I posted a video showing that simply adding a second floor wrecks the material look as well and as you've pointed out it seems that material inherits the look from the floor above and not the floor it was drawn upon. Interesting - hope this thread helps.

Seems to cure the problem when I drop the p-line below some arbitrary height, but I'm noticing the beams are still buggered...

Thanks and very interesting...and not doubting your assessment but wondering why, when adding a second floor in my template plan and the example plan, that changes the look of the material? Curious. I'll try dropping the p-solid created in elevation below the ceiling and see what happens, even though part of the room has no ceiling

Sorry Mark, what I mean is that the 2 materials, the base and the chimney section of the fireplace are the same material but they look different when in PBR view than standard view. Your adjustments helped but they still look different after adding a second floor...

Glad I could help....

Not sure this will help...

Darn, I wish I understood this statement better....Was it even directed at me? The interior wall is actually an exterior wall? And very little doubt that Chief is smarter than I think and much smarter than I

Thanks as always but the materials are still different - better but different. And should it really require such machinations to get (closer to) right? And why does adding the second floor kill the material's look?

Yeah, there's really no reason you shouldn't be stumped by Chief's defaults. It's a bit of science and a bit of an art form - it shouldn't be but it is, at least for me. Hope this video helps

Thanks for taking the time Mark. I tried with no lights, more lights, new materials, the beams are behaving the same when their display is turned on. Looks like adding the second floor causes the wonkiness - and deleting the second floor in the example plan cures it as well. So I'm good to go as long I work on single story homes

It happens to me when I use the material eye dropper to change the material instead of going in to the wall dbx and changing it there...

Darn the beams are behaving the same way...

...and a screen shot of what I'm seeing... Thanks