HumbleChief

Good point and I think really understanding how the system is designed and executed allows for that flexibility. Extra simple example to echo Glenn's point; when a Second Floor Saved Plan View is created from a simple First Floor Saved Plan View there's no need to change Default Sets/Layer Sets for that new Plan View. You can but it can create additional work and clutter that's not needed. Roof Plan First Floor - Roof Plan Second Floor; same Default and Layer Set, change floors in the Saved Plan View is all that's needed - if you choose.

I knew that's what you meant and helpful as always...

The subject is confusing enough and I don't mean to nit pick but I don't think this is accurate and I'm sure inadvertent but reference layers do not live within the active defaults and changing a ref layerset will not change your old link to the original Anno Set. Reference sets live under the Plan View umbrella and have no effect on active defaults or a chosen Anno Set.

I think that's what I initially thought myself....really did not understand them - at all.

Not much of a power user but mostly passive 'active defaults' Gene as I've become accustomed to using and changing plan views. Another option, and one I just started using is the "Save New Default Set" button next to any active default that's currently in use. It means that any time you can take an 'active default being used and name it for future use.

Here's an older video from one of many previous threads on Layers versus Anno versus Plan Views. Always best to have the smart guys re-do or improve but may be this will help?

Agreed on the confusion as the above illustrates. Plans views don't need an Annotation Set 'assigned' to them and Plan Views actually get rid of the need for Anno sets, being replaced by active defaults. Again agreed on how confusing it all can get. If Chief were to design the interface again tomorrow there would probably be no more Anno Sets and just Plan Views with all the settings within those views.

Chief also illustrates in a training video I believe the use of a CAD detail that has all of the schedules in that single CAD detail. They are saved within the template plan's CAD detail and each schedule can be sent to any plan view as needed. Been using that method in my latest plan template and it's pretty efficient.

This ^^^

Another 'yes' to the above, but I don't understand the question below? "Finally, how are Working Plan View and Working Layer Sets utilized? It's only one view, so can't understand how it is helpful. Thanks How is the Working Plan ust"

Can't get the panorama views to cooperate, or look any like realistic but taking your further advice I place a large p-solid in elevation and used my photo as the material and it works like a back drop should. If you have a view out the back of the house, that view stays relative to that view's direction, it doesn't stay put while the house rotates. Curious why Chief's back drops don't work that way out of the box. Probably missing something. THANKS Chop...

Instead of remaining a stationary view as the interior sweeps awkwardly past the backdrop?

Good point...Perhaps Glenn's method above?

Dammm, keep us posted and best of luck.

Did you check task manager and CPU/memory/etc. usage? I had "System Interrupts" at over 35% the other day with a crazy slow down. Not sure how I fixed it other than deleting a bunch of old files, including a few that DropBox was choking on, and loading new video drivers. I learned that system interrupts point to hardware conflicts but again may not help much.

Not sure if this helps at all but feel your pain...

Why can't you just open the old plan in X12? Save as new template?

I use a combination of DropBox and Carbonite. I've only had to use a Carbonite backup file 2 times in the many years I've had it but those 2 times saved hours of work. DropBox has some little known and perhaps new(?) features like version histories that allow retrieval of deleted files and I've had great luck with it for many years. I also used Google Drive with a contractor and it was good but a little temperamental at times and just gravitated towards DropBox. Never tried OneDrive.

OK Downloaded the plan I posted above and it seems to work OK now? I guess I'll just work with that plan and hope for the best.

Here's the plan. CHIEF_CRASH_2.plan

Anyone seen this behavior? I was in the process of changing layers to hide some items and Chief shut down, multiple times. Restarted the computer and was hoping I could not duplicate the behavior but it seems very consistent and makes the current plan unusable - for this morning's presentation of course. Curious if anyone's seen this? Will (have to) send in to tech support of course but not sure how to proceed.

OK Chief, you win. Just re-opened the plan file and it works as expected using edit all roof planes. Thanks again Eric for taking your time to help.

THANKS Eric, Can I assume those 'various ways' are edit all roof planes or group select? Wonder what I'm doing differently?

I have job with a pretty complex roof design with 16 - 18 roof planes and want to change the fascia color on all roofs at once instead of selecting one at a time. If I select all the roof planes either with the 'Edit All Roof Planes' tool or group select them with the shift key the material dialog box is grayed out. I can select one or two and the material option is there but when I add another the dbx is grayed out again. Changing defaults does not affect the existing roof materials. Stumped. Attached is the dbx with the grayed out materials option. Am suspicious about the plan file as it seems it should be much bigger....but it's posted below. ROOF_DBX.plan

Sorry Rob, must have misunderstood.