HumbleChief

HAS to be an easier way. http://www.screencast.com/t/EreDPGM5OI4i

Didn't know that Perry.

It worked on that single window in that plan then doesn't seem to work again. I'll keep trying.

THANKS PERRY!!

When I delete the schedule the custom labels appear but I want a schedule...so???

Feeling pretty dumb (again)this morning. I want to change the label of my windows from automatically generated by Chief to numbers I choose but I can't seem to be able to figure it out. Should be simple and probably is but... http://www.screencast.com/t/hdKvEGznVhz

It's a known, very old bug that's impossible to reproduce in any consistent manner. There is another way to update the Layout and that is to select the Layout box and open either the 'Layout Box Layers' dbx or the Object Layer Properties' dbx and simply close it - make no changes. Can't remember which dbx it is but try both and will update the Layout. You can always close and reopen the Layout file and that should update it as well. This is a really insidious little fellow that can't be found by the tech guys and can wreak havoc if you print immediately after updating a plan file that hasn't updated the Layout file. Usually the Layout file has been closed and re-opened enough times to insure that the Layout is up to date - but not always.

Here's a video showing the phenomenon and Dermot's fix (or better put my lack of skill) worked. http://www.screencast.com/t/mnD0x0kqx

I think Dermot's on to the/my problem. If using a deck railing and you change even the color of a rail the room reverts to a deck. Makes perfect sense. I'll try a regular railing wall instead.

I'll bet that's it Dermot. I'll double check that wall/railing type. Thanks for the tip.

...and not have outside railing rooms revert to 'Decks'? I'm finding I have no use for 'Deck' rooms and want to just leave as unspecified because they just seem to behave better. However whenever anything is changed on the railing walls Chief reverts those rooms back to "deck' rooms. Is there a way to retain the room def and not have it revert to Deck?

I think the foundation needed to be aligned with walls above/below. Try changing the foundation walls to align with each other. http://www.screencast.com/t/A1CamUnczc7

Turn off main layer only?

Make the walls invisible then change the line properties if you want them to show in plan. BTW almost all the Chief users will create 2 plans for 'As Built' plan and 'Proposed' or 'New' plans when doing a remodel. It's really hard to get demo plans to play with new const. without 2 sets of plans. http://www.screencast.com/t/02Dv0iI0P5E

Good advice.

Just tried and, yes, I can also snap to reference layers. http://www.screencast.com/t/hvKIhabU Glenn, We need some more vids from you mate!

Pretty long - hope it helps. http://www.screencast.com/t/jh8WSyMHI Audio and Video out of synch sorry.

That's a great idea Mick. Like I said in an earlier post I had the same thing happen in a plan the other day so I have to assume it's not that uncommon. I'll suggest that change right now.

Always been curious about ref sets. I use them during drawing but never in Layout. How would the OP use ref sets to accomplish what he wants? Put the dimensions he wants to view on all pages on a specific layer that is then shown in a custom ref set?

Thanks Mick, I was able to copy and paste stuff between back up plans and got everything back OK. I'm pretty sure I didn't have the 'retain deck framing' box checked and must have moved a deck/railing wall. And the invisible interior wall messed up the exterior siding - sigh. Live and learn of course and as I played with the plan this morning I had a window opened constantly checking deck framing.

Thanks you guys. Dennis, Rebuilding the deck only builds it according to Chief's spec's. In this case all the deck framing was done in a custom manner as that's where the work on this project is being done. I do have some back up and am trying to decide whether I should try and import the framing from that plan or import the cabinets etc. form the bad plan. Probably the latter. I think you identified the problem Michael. I've got the framing retained on the back up plan and will watch/change that invisible wall, which I need in place to define the ceiling over that little nook. Anyway long day yesterday and my frustration got the better of me. A fresh look today will likely clear up a couple issues.Thanks again.

Speechless. Not really. Messing with a plan and the deck framing disappears. Just gone. The REALLY frustrating part is I have no idea what I did to disappear the framing so it's just a matter of time before I do it again - ugh. http://www.screencast.com/t/ckZGSugQN DECK GONE.plan SAME THING happened to another plan this morning. BUG? Anyone else seen this? User error?

Todd, I get the roofs on the second floor too. Never seen that and couldn't find a way to not see them other than in the roof plane display dbx but shouldn.t have to do that.

...and tongue and groove - never had a chance. Appreciate all the help I can get BTW so appreciate the input.

BUT I double checked and as always very helpful advice.