kwhitt

10 minutes ago, GeneDavis said:

Can't comment without the plan.  Post it.

Here's the download link:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/8t8k1pusihbbw130kn9nt/h?rlkey=h0nuxj7mlfz5cg3p1664wlh11&dl=0

Thanks, Kevin

Just now, GeneDavis said:

Can't comment without the plan.  Post it.

The plan is too large to post here.  I can upload to DB and provide a link.

I may have found another issue with the latest release of X15.

I am creating a cross section and want to display “Cabinets, Custom Backsplashes” only so that I can send off for a quote – see attached video.  As you can see the screen will not update with a change in the layer’s visibility.  On an individual basis there is no problem; however, when I select all layers to turn them all off and then select a couple that I want visible, nothing appears.  I've been using this technique for years with no problems.

Can anyone confirm this?

1 hour ago, Rich_Winsor said:

Sure, all you need is the .msi file. Do you know 

what release number you want? I have the fallowing

numbers in stock:

25.0.2.58

25.0.2.65

25.0.3.69

25.1.0.45

25.2.0.53

25.3.0.77

BTW, The files are like 300MB so getting it to you

could be an issue. 

Thanks Rich.  I just PM'ed you with an upload link.  Kevin

17 minutes ago, kwhitt said:

I tried creating it in plan view (btw - it was drawn in another program before and imported) and it still doesn't work.  It becomes oversized.  I tried stacking it with other molding profiles and the shape becomes skewed no matter what I enter for width, length, repeat.  It did come in oversized the first time and I had to adjust it down.  Definitely something off here.  I will report this too.

Eric - is it even possible to go back to the last version of X15?  A download somewhere?

IMAGES showing proportion not matching original symbol.  I have tried inverting dimensions too.

2 hours ago, solver said:

X15 seems to work if the molding is drawn in plan, but not elevation.

I tried X12 drawing in elevation and imported into X15 and it works.

 

Seems like a bug.

I tried creating it in plan view (btw - it was drawn in another program before and imported) and it still doesn't work.  It becomes oversized.  I tried stacking it with other molding profiles and the shape becomes skewed no matter what I enter for width, length, repeat.  It did come in oversized the first time and I had to adjust it down.  Definitely something off here.  I will report this too.

2 hours ago, solver said:

X15 seems to work if the molding is drawn in plan, but not elevation.

I tried X12 drawing in elevation and imported into X15 and it works.

 

Seems like a bug.

Thanks Eric.  I'll give it a try.  I would never have thought that would affect it.

4 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

I meant the Fix had broken your symbol , I thought you were already on .X15.xxxx.77

 

PDF linked above now.........

 

M.

Got you!  I was out of town this week working from my laptop and just updated my workstation at home.  Had I thought about it before updating the workstation this morning, I should have checked the symbol prior to doing so.  I'll report back on what Chief has to say...

I am attempting to create a piece of dentil molding.  I've model the simple shape at the correct scale (even the dialog window confirms the size is correct).  When I go to use the dentil, it comes in WAY oversized as show in the image below.  The poly molding line is 24" square and I am only able to show one LARGE repeat of the molding.  Admittedly, I can adjust the size in the molding dialog box and change the repeat; however, I am unable to change the depth to 1/4" which is the appropriate depth.  I have attached the CALIBZ file too.  Is this another glitch since the update?  If not, what am I doing wrong?  Thanks, Kevin

dentil.calibz

2 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

Check the Latest Updates PDF, I am sure there was mention of a Mirror Reflection Issue that was "Fixed" which may mean it has broken you symbol ?

 

Mick

 

Thanks Mick.  I updated a day ago and just tried the symbol.  It still doesn't work.  I just reported it to Chief.

On 8/2/2023 at 9:23 PM, Kbird1 said:

 

I think there was a fix for Mirrors in the last update?  and you can see the LED, if you turn off Reflections in the Camera Settings, it seems to be work here with Reflections OFF

anyway so it might need to goto support for a Fix ?

 

On.......                                                                                          Off.......

                                  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mick.

 

Hey Mick.  Sorry for the delay in replying.  Here again, I had no idea there was a reply.  I think this may be a bug which I will now report.  I've been using this model for at least a year with no problems.

On 8/2/2023 at 7:21 PM, TeaTime said:

The little touch buttons in the lower left go in and out as well. This looks like classic "z fighting" to me, chief often has issues when two surfaces are right ontop of one another. I'm actually less surprised that it's happening and more shocked it hadn't been happening all along. But if it was fine in X15 before this last update, then maybe something they fixed ended up breaking this - you should probably send it to support.

Teatime - thanks for the reply.  I apologize for the long delay.  I was not notified as I usually am that I had a response.  It's not Z-fighting as the light strip and control button are offset enough to avoid this. 

You can see the glow when the camera is perfectly perpendicular to the symbol but not at glancing angles.  Weird, as I've been using this symbol without any issues for over a year.

Ever since updating V15 in the last couple of days, the glow has stopped working on this particular symbol - see images and symbol attached.  The "white lighting" on other symbols works okay.  Anyone have any ideas on how to fix?

Untitled 1.calibz

12 hours ago, SHCanada2 said:

I think though, because you and I seem to be doing the same thing, if you send it to layout then crop the box, as long as CA does not reduce the camera width or height by more than the amount you crop, you would be okay/

 

Or put another way, if your camera was larger(width and or height) that what you really wanted, you then send that to layout and then resize using the X, then crop to what you wanted, you should be okay

 

...at least that is how I do it, I dont care that the camera is perfect width or height, as long as it is larger than what I want because I will enlarge and crop in layout

 

Jason - I think what you're saying is if I make the layout box much larger than I really need, the image would show up with the correct aspect ratio.  That is not what I am seeing.  Further this makes it difficult to keep any consistency between each page.  I am showing one camera view on each page of an 11" x 17" layout and would like all the camera views in alignment from page to page.  Copying and pasting the layout box to a new page provides unreliable results and there is no function to relink a new camera view, so I would have to set up each new layout box from scratch and hope I get it close to the format on the previous page.  As this would be so much work, I might as well export each camera out to an image file and use those within the layout box.

3 hours ago, Kbird1 said:

 

It's the  "Concentric Resize"  Shortcut , they gave us about 4-5 versions ago when they change how Live Cameras work....

 

M.

Got it.  Thanks.

3 hours ago, SHCanada2 said:

well, let me preface by saying what i am trying to do and so I am always on the lookout to see how people do it.

 

I want to be able to send the cameras to layout and then not touch the cameras or do anything more with the layout. Because I want to change things in the plan, such as cabinets, fridge location etc, and just have the change show up in layout so i can pdf them to send to the client, or even for me to review.

 

So i first tried sending the camera to layout but it showed up as a medium sized layout box (see the second image below), and when I went to pull the corner to make it larger, the layout box would not expand correctly(third image). So then I went to sending "screen as image" to layout and constantly resizing the image and constantly resending to layout whever something changed. Then someone told me the layout box will expand concentrically if I hold down the X key while dragging a corner, I then crop it to how I want...which results in the aspect ratio I want.Which is why when I saw your issue, I was wondering if you are doing the same as me, because I do not have the same issue, and I essentially choose the aspect ratio by cropping.

 

 

I have these two on layout and I dont have to resend or export images. they update with the plan

 

 

The only "remaining" problem I have is that to get the crispness of the image, I need to pdf the layout as ARCH D, if I pdf it as tabloid, is is not as sharp, presumably because CA is maxing the out the DPI at 300 (CA indicated such), and by having the larger sheet, i get more dots in my image. But that is just a guess. The only problem with this is that a full page ARCH D PBR RTRT camera takes minutes to pdf, while tabloid takes seconds.

 

 

Send "screen" to layout:

 

dragging the corner:

 

uisng the X key while dragging:

 

cropped:

per first screnshot above

 

Now other people have said they export the camera to image, and the layout is linked to that image. Its just a PITA in my opinion to constantly be exporting images.

 

I asked CA to be abe to specify a DPI per camera. If they did that I think one could get as good an image as one wants through configuration, and pay whatever price one wants with relation to file size. And with the existing cropping ability one can get whatver aspect ratio one wants. which is why i was intrigued by your issue

 

 

 

 

 

 

My intended reasoning and process are exactly as you describe above.  The aspect ratio keeps changing within the layout box (even when resizing concentrically) and this is a known issue by tech support.  Further, the images do not automatically refresh leaving jagged edges even when idle.

On 5/24/2023 at 2:19 AM, SHCanada2 said:

thanks for the update, I did some checking on layouts, and do not see it change the apsect ratio for me. It keeps to the same size window filled  that I sized using the 'X' key.

 

is it only happening when you do this? :

if so that would explain why i do not see it

Jason - What is the "X" key?  Some type of shortcut?

Another potential reason for the problem on my system is that I have a wide screen 34" monitor that I split in half among two applications.

@SHCanada2

@Kbird1

@robdyck

As promised here is an update.  I just got a call from Nigel in Tech Support.  They are aware of the limitations with exporting camera views to layout.  They are working on a way to batch print multiple camera views and/or send camera views to layout with a predefined aspect ratio.  They felt both should be a feature within Chief although could not comment on a time frame.  For now, the best way to go about it is to do what Rob and I have been doing by exporting each camera view individually to a file and then linking this image file to a layout within the plan set (if required).  

17 hours ago, SHCanada2 said:

did you log a ticket? I'm curious as to what CA would respond with

Jason - I just did.  I'll let you know what I learn.

2 hours ago, SHCanada2 said:

What do you do after you export them?

 

I read in anothe post that someone was using the same jpg filenames between projects, so they could link the files back to layout easily..

 

or are you using some third party program to print the jpeg files? how does that work in terms of describing what the picture is?

 

I'm more or less happy with the PBR box in layout, but annoyed that I have to print ARCH D pdf size in order to get a decent resolution. I think it is faster to export images and link them to layout, but jeez, kind of defeats the purpose of sending the camera to layout..so I have been holding out doing it (i.e. too lazy, happier to watch the paint dry while printing to pdf)  

 

 

I've just been compiling them in a PDF and sending to clients.  I was hoping to automate the process by using layout so that future changes to the design would update within the layout box; however, the aspect ratio keeps changing although the layout box stays the same size.  I guess the only way for now is to print them to file and insert into a layout box which defeats the purpose.

1 hour ago, robdyck said:

Have you tried using live views in layout? Personally, I would NEVER touch a live view with a 10 foot pole mouse, cursor...?!

I use them all the time for my cabinetry elevations.  It saves a lot of time with all the revisions I have to make due to indecisive clients!  For house plans, not so much.

19 minutes ago, robdyck said:

I usually open all images (in Chief) to be exported at once (group select in project browser), then simply move through the export process 1 at a time. After the first images is saved to the correct folder, the same folder always re-opens so saving is super quick. 

This is EXACTLY what I'm doing now. I was hoping there was an even faster way. Therefore, my attempt at printing them through layout which would make future revisions much easier.

2 minutes ago, robdyck said:

Twinmotion exports all selected media using a single function. And for 30 views it would be much faster. It would mean that you would need to export the model and setup all your camera views in Twinmotion.

Chief really needs to adopt this functionality. I have suggested to them that the aspect ratio should be able to be defined per camera, without affecting the main drawing window size.

Yes, that's a nice feature of TM.  AutoCAD has batch printing too which is why I am asking.  I'm guessing it has something to do with the ever changing window size based on whether I have the browsers open or not.  Like I said above, it's quicker for me to open each image individually and export as a JPG or similar.