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Can a P-line Solid Be Turned Into A Window...?

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to add to a schedule? I have a pretty unique couple of windows that occupy a corner and will be notched in to a large granite boulder. They are currently simple p-line solids but I need to add them to the window schedule to modify the Title 24 calcs here in California.

 

What's a good strategy to get them on the window schedule? Convert to Symbols maybe?

 

Thanks

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Maybe.  But if the window isn't a rectangular shape in elevation then it would require a lot of tricky work.  IAE, you would need to set the 2D Block to "None".

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It will need to be/remain rectangular with the rock notched to fit the shape. I was watching a video by Glenn re: electrical symbols and it seems I might be able to create symbol as a window or at least specify it as such in a schedule?

 

Here's the video reference. I'll try and create a symbol - don't have any other options I can think of.

 

http://screencast.com/t/C4xaJPDtE2Q9

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Can't you export the p-line solid to a .3ds file, and then re-import that into Chief as a window?...

 

Or am I missing something?

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Can't you export the p-line solid to a .3ds file, and then re-import that into Chief as a window?...

 

Or am I missing something?

Jonathan I see the import .3ds dialog box in your post but I don't see a way to export the p-line solid as a 3ds object. Oh I think you mean as a separate object in its own plan file? Yeah I can create a symbol from there pretty easy I think but I got distracted a bit. Will try it now.

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Larry,

 

If you will show me exactly what you want - I can help.  Creating a Window Symbol isn't really difficult.  I just need the detail.

 

OTOH, if you just use a standard wall with a fixed glass window.  Then you can "Superimpose" The Bolder - even without the "Notch".  It will look fine in 3D and the bldg dept will accept it as a rectangular fixed glass window.

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If you really want to do this yourself, just create the 3D geometry in a blank plan, display it in a 3D View, Convert to Symbol, (Window) and set the 2D Block to "None".

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Thanks Joe, Jonathan.

 

I've created a thousand symbols and just did it again in this case and it worked OK. I should be able to just get the window on a schedule for T24 and not worry about the 3D views, which have been approved a long time ago. Was more wondering about the best approach - symbol it is.

 

Didn't set the 2D block to none, I'll see what effect that has.

 

Thanks again

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Thanks Joe, Jonathan.

 

Didn't set the 2D block to none, I'll see what effect that has.

 

Thanks again

It will make it appear as a window in a wall in Plan View - rather than applied to the exterior.

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Tried it 5 times still appears as an 4" thick piece of glass sitting on the outside of the wall. Missing something.

 

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Larry,

 

For the 3D View, in order to make it fit into the wall, adjust the 3D Origin Offset ("Y") value.  I don't remember off hand but I think it needs to be a negative value.  I would also refine the window to be a thinner piece of Glass and maybe make a "frame" the thickness of the wall as a part of the symbol.

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Weird....try changing the symbol "Y" offset to .5.

 

I did that on this one and it seemed to work.

 

I've never tried this method with windows.  I've seen the selection, but I do doors this way quite a bit.

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I'm sure you know this, but IF you've already placed the symbol, you can click on the "Open Symbol" tool to edit the 3D symbol.

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Rats!...beat by Yoda...

Hey Hambone, I've been at this "Window Symbol" thing for several years and I'm still not happy with the way CA did it.

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It all kinda sorta works but still creates a 4" thick window (no matter the thickness of the original p-line solid) and looks good in almost no view. [sarcasm]Other than that it's great [/sarcasm]

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Thanks Joe, Jonathan, Jef.

 

Go it to work OK with a lot of effort. Like I say in this last video I think if Chief had a contest, and offered unlimited prize money, to come up with the most complicated, unintuitive, and obtuse method for dealing with 3D symbols there would be no winner - because they have already accomplished that objective.

 

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