HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 to add to a schedule? I have a pretty unique couple of windows that occupy a corner and will be notched in to a large granite boulder. They are currently simple p-line solids but I need to add them to the window schedule to modify the Title 24 calcs here in California. What's a good strategy to get them on the window schedule? Convert to Symbols maybe? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Maybe. But if the window isn't a rectangular shape in elevation then it would require a lot of tricky work. IAE, you would need to set the 2D Block to "None". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 It will need to be/remain rectangular with the rock notched to fit the shape. I was watching a video by Glenn re: electrical symbols and it seems I might be able to create symbol as a window or at least specify it as such in a schedule? Here's the video reference. I'll try and create a symbol - don't have any other options I can think of. http://screencast.com/t/C4xaJPDtE2Q9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Archijef is good at this kind of thing. Haven't seen anything from him lately.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamlinBC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Can't you export the p-line solid to a .3ds file, and then re-import that into Chief as a window?... Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Can't you export the p-line solid to a .3ds file, and then re-import that into Chief as a window?... Or am I missing something? Jonathan I see the import .3ds dialog box in your post but I don't see a way to export the p-line solid as a 3ds object. Oh I think you mean as a separate object in its own plan file? Yeah I can create a symbol from there pretty easy I think but I got distracted a bit. Will try it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Larry, If you will show me exactly what you want - I can help. Creating a Window Symbol isn't really difficult. I just need the detail. OTOH, if you just use a standard wall with a fixed glass window. Then you can "Superimpose" The Bolder - even without the "Notch". It will look fine in 3D and the bldg dept will accept it as a rectangular fixed glass window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 If you really want to do this yourself, just create the 3D geometry in a blank plan, display it in a 3D View, Convert to Symbol, (Window) and set the 2D Block to "None". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Thanks Joe, Jonathan. I've created a thousand symbols and just did it again in this case and it worked OK. I should be able to just get the window on a schedule for T24 and not worry about the 3D views, which have been approved a long time ago. Was more wondering about the best approach - symbol it is. Didn't set the 2D block to none, I'll see what effect that has. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Thanks Joe, Jonathan. Didn't set the 2D block to none, I'll see what effect that has. Thanks again It will make it appear as a window in a wall in Plan View - rather than applied to the exterior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Tried it 5 times still appears as an 4" thick piece of glass sitting on the outside of the wall. Missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Larry, For the 3D View, in order to make it fit into the wall, adjust the 3D Origin Offset ("Y") value. I don't remember off hand but I think it needs to be a negative value. I would also refine the window to be a thinner piece of Glass and maybe make a "frame" the thickness of the wall as a part of the symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamlinBC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Weird....try changing the symbol "Y" offset to .5. I did that on this one and it seemed to work. I've never tried this method with windows. I've seen the selection, but I do doors this way quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamlinBC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Rats!...beat by Yoda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamlinBC Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm sure you know this, but IF you've already placed the symbol, you can click on the "Open Symbol" tool to edit the 3D symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I just checked, the "Y" origin needs to be a positive value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Rats!...beat by Yoda... Hey Hambone, I've been at this "Window Symbol" thing for several years and I'm still not happy with the way CA did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCHIJEF2000 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yup, haven't had anything sensible to say recently, or more importantly anything ludicrous either. you could try studying these old threads. http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?32770-Windows-any-windows&highlight=windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 It all kinda sorta works but still creates a 4" thick window (no matter the thickness of the original p-line solid) and looks good in almost no view. [sarcasm]Other than that it's great [/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yup, haven't had anything sensible to say recently, or more importantly anything ludicrous either. you could try studying these old threads. http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?32770-Windows-any-windows&highlight=windows VERY helpful!! That thread was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Thanks Joe, Jonathan, Jef. Go it to work OK with a lot of effort. Like I say in this last video I think if Chief had a contest, and offered unlimited prize money, to come up with the most complicated, unintuitive, and obtuse method for dealing with 3D symbols there would be no winner - because they have already accomplished that objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Larry, Is this something like you wanted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yeah pretty close Joe but over it for now and have moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 FWIW, That was just a regular Chief Window, not a Symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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