JenniZ Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Is there a way to show the actual thickness of the door in plan view. It gets a little convoluted when dimensioning the cabinet and countertops between the plan views and elevations. Say I set my base cabinet depth to the depth it is with the door so I can show it in plan view (24 7/8") but then when I do a elevation or section that dimension (24 7/8") is only showing that as the case depth and doesn't include the door. I guess I could change all of my cabinets to flush inset with 0 separations but was wondering if anyone had a better idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 In your other thread, there was a reply that suggested using a Door Panel from the Library. This is really a great way to put Panels on the end of a Cabinet. They can be sized completely independently and you can avoid some of these problems. Note: Cabinet Dimensions are usually "Box Dimensions", not overall including the Doors/Drawer Fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniZ Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 This is a different topic concerning all base cabinets and how I want to show the depths of them in plan and elevations views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I have attached a pic showing the method using a door panel I described in your other thread. Everything dimensions properly. I have used the method you are currently using but had the same problem. With this method you can also manipulate all components in all views. This would be a typical section of a peninsula. we would normally place a back panel and then apply the decorative door panels it. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Here are two pics showing just a door panel, same technique as above, on a base unit end gable. 1st pic shows flush with cabinet base, 2nd shows flush with drawer fronts (provides a semi inset look). Every thing dimension properly. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniZ Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 I started a new thread because I now understand the panels. This thread is about cabinet depths with doors and drawers. Maybe I'm not being clear with my question above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I don't believe there is a way, other than with point markers, to dimension the cabinet front thickness where the configuration is an overlay style. The inset will work, but your drawings will of course depict the inset. I am in the Kitchen business, is there a particular reason that you need to dimension this? Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniZ Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 I just set all of my cabinets to a flush inset and the separations at 0 so they look like frameless but are dimensioning to the face of the door on both plan view and elevation with the correct overhang of the countertop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Works great and it does allow you to dimension. Only minor issue is that setting the vertical separations to "0" will mean that the door/drawer widths will be calculated to the full cabinet width (no 1/8" gap allowance) or if you have an opening, say for a built in wall oven, it will show not show the interior width correctly. This may not be of any concern depending upon your needs. Still interested in the need to dimension this, it would really be helpful to understand this. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Just another thought. Please keep-in-mind that the cabinetry manufactures usually interpret the depth on full overlay as being the box depth excluding the fronts. If your drawings are being used for ordering you may not get what you are expecting. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I do have one (Canadian) brand the lists depth to the door in the catalog-but they also spec both. Those have 23-1/2" deep boxes which is quirky. Every other brand I've ever used is ordered by box depth. All the installers I know work from box depth. Soo.. ...for drawings purposes I dimension to boxes and note that. For that brand I do the same, and note it on the plans. They have an ordering program which solves any issues. For aisle clearances I dimension counter to counter and note it as such. If I felt I had to dimension to face doors for some reason I'd likely place a dashed line at that distance from the wall, maybe on a separate locked layer, and snap to that. That way the cabinets will behave properly. Side panels OTOH are another story- for overlay panels I always place loose doors for that (or drawer and door blocked). I want to see them in plan to avoid overlapping casings, missing them entirely or burying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 My primary supplier from Quebec uses box depth. Door thickness will vary according to style and construction material, typically between 5/8, 3/4, 1" and possible greater with an applied moulding. Their line must be highly standardized to deal with this in their catalog. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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