How to get walkout basement showing as foundation plan in layout


 Share

Recommended Posts

This is the first home my team and I have created in Chief Architect (converting from SoftPlan) and we're stuck still trying to figure out if there's a way to show a foundation only plan in the layout using the "walkout" basement, level 0. We end up with the full framed walls showing on top of the 4' stem foundation walls, no interior footings for the interior bearing walls, and a stone veneer on the framed wall above that isn't supported by the foundation wall.

 

If anyone can offer information on how to get just a true, basic foundation plan in our plan set/layout that would be fantastic! The (nearly complete) floor plan is zipped up and provided below.

Warnier, Adam & Diana.zip

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Your best friend will be found to be the "Foundation Tab" of the "Wall Specification Dialog" when manually drawing foundation walls whether they are part of or just adjacent to living space on the basement level.

 

DJP

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Annotation Sets (now called default sets) and/or plan views (which I have not used as of yet) are going to be your best friends if you do many basements. 

These are from a walk-out set. These are completed with Anno/Layer sets. I can control all walls, notes, dimension, everything from the same plan file with a layer set for the foundation plan, and a different set for the floor plan.

image.thumb.png.f5acef7dbbf52f60869cbdfafd94f458.png

image.thumb.png.a26cc3afdf486212a76f2c2fdc179747.png

image.thumb.png.aa1a444dd724d8a3cf53e023a624fa60.png

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

You really should have posted this in the Q&A Forum.  Tips and Techniques is where you show your tips on how to do something.  IAE,

If you just reserve Level 0 for the Foundation and then use Level 1 for the Basement it will be a lot easier.

 

Floor Levels in Chief shouldn't be confused with Floor Names. 

 

For a Building with a Basement:

  • Level 0 = Foundation Plan
  • Level 1 = Basement Plan
  • Level 2 = First Floor Plan or Main Floor Plan
  • Level 3 = Second Floor Plan

Without a Basement

  • Level 0 = Foundation Plan
  • Level 1 = First Floor Plan or Main Floor Plan
  • Level 2 = Second Floor Plan

The Floors can be named in the Project Browser.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Joe_Carrick said:

For a Building with a Basement:

  • Level 0 = Foundation Plan
  • Level 1 = Basement Plan

I tried that method once, but after working the way I do, I did not like that even one little bit. I do about 90% basements, so having solid anno/layer sets have been best for my workflow.

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, joey_martin said:

I tried that method once, but after working the way I do, I did not like that even one little bit. I do about 90% basements, so having solid anno/layer sets have been best for my workflow.

 

Joey,

 

You really should study using "Saved Plan Views" with "Reference Levels".  Having only the Foundation on Level 0 keeps it separate from the Basement Walls, Doors, Windows, etc.  I do a lot of homes in Southern California on sloped lots.  Many times those are "Split Level" as well and having separate Levels for the Foundation and the Basement makes it much easier.

 

Chief has evolved a lot in the past several versions and getting away from some of the ways we used to work by taking advantage of new capabilities just makes sense.  

 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sloping lots are a different animal than the flat lots we have here. And when the door/window is a part of the foundation wall system, it's easier for me to keep track of them on the same level. I have some saved plan views set up, but every time I try to use them I just end up confusing myself and deleting them. They are in my template, but honestly I'm too busy lately to be bothered with them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the suggestions and different ideas here. Newbie Chief user here, so my apologies for putting this in the wrong section. 

 

2 hours ago, Joe_Carrick said:

You really should have posted this in the Q&A Forum.  Tips and Techniques is where you show your tips on how to do something.  IAE,

If you just reserve Level 0 for the Foundation and then use Level 1 for the Basement it will be a lot easier.

 

Floor Levels in Chief shouldn't be confused with Floor Names. 

 

For a Building with a Basement:

  • Level 0 = Foundation Plan
  • Level 1 = Basement Plan
  • Level 2 = First Floor Plan or Main Floor Plan
  • Level 3 = Second Floor Plan

Without a Basement

  • Level 0 = Foundation Plan
  • Level 1 = First Floor Plan or Main Floor Plan
  • Level 2 = Second Floor Plan

The Floors can be named in the Project Browser.

 

This was the exact "workaround" I thought of. Will continue to explore this option as we live in the Rocky Mountain region and it seems at least 75% of our jobs have walkout (at worst) or stepped (at best) basements and we (and our builders) are used to seeing a separate plan page that is strictly the foundation walls only with no framing at all. Additionally, we often have jobs with multiple "levels" below finish grade because of the significant slope on the lot - just to get footings to virgin soil.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 hours ago, joey_martin said:

Annotation Sets (now called default sets) and/or plan views (which I have not used as of yet) are going to be your best friends if you do many basements. 

These are from a walk-out set. These are completed with Anno/Layer sets. I can control all walls, notes, dimension, everything from the same plan file with a layer set for the foundation plan, and a different set for the floor plan.

image.thumb.png.f5acef7dbbf52f60869cbdfafd94f458.png

image.thumb.png.a26cc3afdf486212a76f2c2fdc179747.png

image.thumb.png.aa1a444dd724d8a3cf53e023a624fa60.png

 

 

Thanks for sharing examples of what you've done on a similar type project. This is helpful!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

@DomaniHomeDesign -

I made this video a while back but it may help you understand how you can used saved plan views to show what you want on the foundation level. The method Joe mentions above is also a possibility...and may work better depending on the site conditions. But this simple video may at least shine some light on the issue for you...

 

One note: In the plan view dialogue you can actually specify how pony walls are displayed...the PW display can be unique for each specific "plan view". There's no need to go to defaults and change the pony wall display. 

 

 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

9 hours ago, SNestor said:

@DomaniHomeDesign -

I made this video a while back but it may help you understand how you can used saved plan views to show what you want on the foundation level. The method Joe mentions above is also a possibility...and may work better depending on the site conditions. But this simple video may at least shine some light on the issue for you...

 

One note: In the plan view dialogue you can actually specify how pony walls are displayed...the PW display can be unique for each specific "plan view". There's no need to go to defaults and change the pony wall display. 

 

 

 

Wow, thanks for sharing this video! This video actually gets me excited to dig into understanding layers and plan sets more. It looks like something another Chief user was trying to explain, but we couldn't get to work right. Will keep playing around with these tools and techniques. Much appreciated!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
 Share

  • Member Statistics

    30055
    Total Members
    9156
    Most Online
    DraftingHomeDana
    Newest Member
    DraftingHomeDana
    Joined
  • Similar Content

    • By MN_JohnH
      I am wondering how I can set up my foundation walls and main floor so that I can have a slab on one part and a framed floor on the other that flush out at the same level.
      But I would like the top of the ICF foundation walls to have a double sill plate with the concrete poured inside of that where the slab is and the other side would have accommodations for the framing to come out at the same height. I have a simple plan attached and some cross section details of how the top of foundation wall would look.
      I know I can just build it with the slab at the same level as the house and then just have these detail drawings included in the plan but I am wondering if there is a way to actually have Chief build it this way?


      plan.plan
    • By TrimbachDesign
      Hello Chief friends,
       
      I've been struggling and searching this topic but cannot seem to come up with the information that I am looking for. Basically, I have a sloping site and want to draw the uphill stemwall (top) 2'0" higher than the downhill wall. The floor system will ledger off the uphill wall, and the uphill stemwall top should finish about 2'0" higher than subfloor elevation. Wood wall framing will then be 2'0" shorter on this uphill side. Additionally, I'll be using some retaining walls extending off of the foundation to retain the up hill fill material. 
       
      I was able to "drag up" the top of the stem walls on the uphill wall to gain this two feet of elevation. However, there are all sorts of issues with wall intersections that I cannot seem to clean up. I think that what I am after is forcing the taller wall to run through, but I can't seem to force that in my foundation drawing or 3d view. There has to be a better way... Also, now the subfloor and some trim is sticking through the stem wall. 
       
      I'm running x12 on MacOSX. 
       
      Appreciate any help you all can provide! 
       
      Thanks,
      Austin

    • By lucratect
      In my plan I need most of the foundation to be a monolithic slab except in areas where there are pipes such as the bathroom.  I am trying to figure out how to cut a hole in a foundation that I have generated in CA with the foundation tool, but when I try the "slab hole with footing" and the "Hole in floor platform" tools I get errors. "could not create hole in floor platform" and "a slab hole must be placed inside a slab".  
       
      To elaborate on the foundation, it will be piers 4ft into the ground then a normal monolithic slab and footings will be poured on top of the piers.  The footings and slab will sit about 24" above the existing terrain where the piers tops also are.  The soil cap will be course gravel and basecourse on which the slab will be poured.  The bathrooms and other rooms with piping will be to the outside of the building and there will be a crawlspace below those areas to service pipes.
       
      I am hoping someone has experience with this and can help me.  I've scoured the forums and spent hours in CA to no avail!
    • By chiefuser70
      Hello all,
       
      I am a fairly new user to Chief, but I have graphic design and 3D experience in other applications that seem to parlay well in Chief.
       
      I am using Version X12.
       
      I have been working on several projects and all of them have the floor joists sitting on a framed wall making the top of the joist even with the green plate.
       
      To illustrate my end goal, I created what I am trying to do in my 'visual' 3D app, so it is not to scale or anything, but I am having a tough time making this happen in CA.
       
      I get close with the the offset footing and stem wall, but I cannot figure out how to add the framing on the 7" side of the footing?
       
      I also noticed there is an error where when you add a framed footing, it will show up like a solid piece of lumber until you rebuild the framing, and then it will look correct like it does in my 3D mockup.
       
      Has anyone created a conditioned crawl like this, with the framing on the footing? I see in architectural guides that they just normally pour an L shaped stem wall and rest the joists on that L shelf, but there is something with the R factor and by adding the framed wall and then the foam it makes this other method better, or so I have been told.
       
      Thank you for any suggestions. My current solution is just to draw out a normal footing and then just have the cad detail show what it really should be.
       
      Cheers,
       
      Joe


    • By AAZeiset
      I am needing to show a 12 inch brick ledge on this foundation. Any ideas how to get rid of the small portion of foundation wall building up on the right side?? Maybe its a simple fix that I am overlooking... Any suggestions are welcome!
      Thanks in advance,
      A Zeiset