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Need advise on how to provide a double column (newel) on raised porch, besides drawing manually.  I have done the double column before, but did it manually, the difference was that house was one step off of grade, therefore no railing was required.  The house I have now will require a railing.  I tried to break the wall, thinking that would add a column, sometimes it did, but if you tried to adjust the distance, well.. rail wall has A LOT to be desired for, that's all I'm going to say.  Basically it didn't work.  I also need to keep the "beam" that chief puts in with the "post to beam" selection, per the engineer for wind load (hurricane winds)

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I know, but I need to show that "break" of no railing in between.  Railing wall, then a invisible wall back to a railing wall??  

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16 minutes ago, mtldesigns said:

Railing wall, then a invisible wall back to a railing wall??

You said it.

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Well, I did ask huh.  :-)  Was hoping for a magic button I was unaware of.  Thanks for confirming my thought process..

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1 minute ago, mtldesigns said:

Well, I did ask huh.  :-)  Was hoping for a magic button I was unaware of.  Thanks for confirming my thought process..

 

It's helpful to quote who/what you are referring to.

 

Do you get what I posted above?

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5 minutes ago, mtldesigns said:

Well, I did ask huh.  :-)  Was hoping for a magic button I was unaware of.  Thanks for confirming my thought process..

 

Use a little section of perpendicular Room Divider wall to more precisely control the break.  You can also do what Eric has shown, but it can be pretty complicated and time consuming to get like you want it at ends of walls and at other transitions. 

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Actually was answering to both you and Michael.  Yes I did get your picture.. did you have to do it the way I mentioned, or did you have another way Eric?

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I made a couple of railing videos recently that might give you some ideas too. Posted in Tips or search my YouTube channel.

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Just now, Alaskan_Son said:

but it can be pretty complicated and time consuming to get like you want it at ends of walls and at other transitions. 

I have two full decks to do this with, with a lot of corners.  This is going to take a little bit of time.

 

1 minute ago, Alaskan_Son said:

Use a little section of perpendicular Room Divider

This is what I thought I had to do.  

 

 

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Just now, solver said:

I made a couple of railing video

I save a lot of those vids..  going to watch them now.  Wife just gave me a hot chocolate cookie with a coffee...  

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3 minutes ago, mtldesigns said:

I have two full decks to do this with, with a lot of corners.

 

As usual, the posted picture doesn't match the problem :(

 

As Michael said, double column symbols don't work on corners and have multiple other problems when used as part of a railing wall.

 

Still usable when placing manually.

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Yes they do. I made a sample deck off to the side.  The first problem going with a larger sq. column, is it hangs off the edge of the deck, if you use the dbx.  So I made my newels 0" in size... placed the symbols of columns.  I cut the wall, and where I don't want railing is an invisible wall.  How do I get the rails to sit back?  If I can figure this out, I should be ok.. just a tedious process.  

 

 

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Make the railing wall thicker (general tab)

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That did it..  unchecked full wall width of rails.  

 

Watching your Railing - Part 2, to see if it gave me the fix.  

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I keep some different lengths of railing I turned into symbols for situations like this. I find it faster to simply use symbols to achieve this.

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9 hours ago, joey_martin said:

different lengths of railing I turned into symbols

That's a good idea Joey..

 

On 12/7/2020 at 8:27 PM, Alaskan_Son said:

perpendicular Room Divider wall to more precisely control the break

That's what I ended up doing..   ended up looking great.. IMO

 

23 hours ago, solver said:

railing wall thicker

 

Thanks guys for the direction.  

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