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Cheek Wall Issue

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Having issue with auto dormer cheek wall laying into attic wall and roof correctly.

 

I viewed and liked SNESTOR and solver advice on other similar issues, but not able to apply to this one yet.

Any movement of attic wall or auto dormer produces unconnected wall errors or dormer cannot find back wall error.

 

I can post plan but attachments my suffice?

attic dormer screen shot.png

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camera on roof dormer.png

screenshot of cheek inside room.png

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44 minutes ago, cajunland said:

Any movement of attic wall or auto dormer produces unconnected wall errors or dormer cannot find back wall error.

Have you tried exploding the auto-dormer and manually adjusting it?  Looks to me like you should try that then pull the exterior wall back further into the room and in that walls dbx's roof panel select 'lower wall split by butting roof' and select an interior wall type for the lower wall.  This doesn't always work but worth trying.

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Ok DzinEye.

Exploded it and checked 'lower wall split by butting roof'.

Now dormer and interior walls look good.

But lower wall split not having effect on attic side of wall.

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Any points for almost?

Made wall a pony wall to get bottom most interior type. But not quite all of wall.

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1 hour ago, cajunland said:

Any points for almost?

Made wall a pony wall to get bottom most interior type. But not quite all of wall.

I wish I knew why but that 'lower wall split' feature doesn't work all the time... I just had it happen a couple days ago, ended up covering that wall with a material region so I could move on.    Looks like your floor is missing?...is that on purpose?

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That is an attic and I need to look at putting floor in part of that space.

Blower and water tanks reside in it.

I'm guessing invisible walls to define it to make a space to identify it.

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Thanks for the question DzinEye.

Defines a room with walls. (type- Attic)

Then door and floor added.

Changed wall types:

Railing wall- Wall dbx/General/checked Railing; Room Divider type on another.

Created new wall type on some walls as seen and defined them by deleting wall layer #1- Drywall to show studs in unfinished attic area.

fyi: Walls not framed yet so I believe that may be why it looks like paneling on some attic walls from removal of drywall on layer 1.

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@cajunland - You should build and new "blank" floor. Chief does not like it when you try to construct rooms on an attic floor. I always have at least one floor more than I need in most every plan.

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On 10/15/2020 at 8:52 AM, cajunland said:

I can post plan but attachments my suffice?

 

You should always post a plan for stuff like this wherever possible. 

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Thanks SNestor for the heads up.

My search shows "Create a new floor by selecting Build> Floor> Build New Floor from the menu"?

There was no floor before I drew new walls in attic area and modified them.

I'll check your videos if you show the methodology there.

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1 hour ago, cajunland said:

Defines a room with walls. (type- Attic)

Then door and floor added.

If you're just trying to show that you're slapping down some plywood on top of ceiling joists to create a platform in your attic, then what you did is fine as far as I'm concerned.  If you're actually trying to make it a 'room' with other attributes, then you should create a floor level

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I did create new thread ATTIC FLOOR and posted plan there.

 

But to address the advice- "build new "blank" floor":

 

I lost you.

 

This is area on same 2nd floor level.

Not split level.

There is also attic above this 2nd level.

Functions as an unconditioned attic space with plywood platform floor/no finish floor where mechanicals (HVAC) and electric panel are placed and require access.

So I created a room with door and modified walls and showed no ceiling.

 

CA Reference manual only shows me floors created above or below current floor.

 

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41 minutes ago, cajunland said:

I did create new thread ATTIC FLOOR and posted plan there.

If you had posted the plan here in this thread, most people would have seen a long time ago that you already have a suitable floor.  You're not building on the Attic floor, you're building on Floor 2, so the majority of this conversation is moot. 

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By the way, your cheek wall issue is the result of your Roof Opening on the 1st floor cutting into your wall.  Here's a quick complimentary video with a few tips on-the-house...

 

 

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Wow.

C'est beaucoup bon Michael.

 

A video says 10,000 words.

 

I saw you were working from 1st floor level to be able to see the hole in roof from dormer to pull it out and fix it.

You are also correct on framing.

I understand I need to do this after these type issues are ironed out.

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