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I was asked to bid this 3500 sq. ft. design.  I have never done this style type, and really not my favorite, but I do like a challenge.  Would this house be considered a Classic Colonial, I have no idea.  The house itself and the roof, I don't see a problem with, but my concern would be the columns, esp. being at 20' + tall?  Would anyone have a place where I can go see details of this (link), esp. the structural parts.  Any help or direction will be appreciated.

 

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Have you tried an internet search for colonial column?

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Hi Eric,

 

Yes I did.  Your link looks good too.  I know these "slide" over a post of some kind or a built up structure.  I'm trying to find out how to design the structural part, or get close enough for a engineer to look at.  

 

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4 minutes ago, mtldesigns said:

I know these "slide" over a post of some kind

 

Some are load bearing.

 

FRP Round Column Load Bearing Specs

Here are the load bearing specifications for fiberglass-reinforced polymer (FRP) columns. Load capacities are vertical centered only. If your engineering requires lateral or lift loads, such as a free-standing pergola, you will need to put a structural post inside the columns. Split columns have no load bearing capacity. That's usually not an issue because split columns are generally used where another form of support (post, pillar, wall) is available.

 

Diameter Max. Load (lbs)
6" 8,000
8" 10,000
10" 14,000
12" 18,000
14" 20,000
16" 20,000+
18" 20,000+
20" 20,000+
22" 20,000+
24" 20,000+

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I searched this sight you sent, where did you find this chart?  There will be some loads on these, esp. lateral, house is being build in a hurricane wind zone area, so if I get this contract, I will have to rely on engineer before I attempt to design and spec out. Like I mentioned, def not used to this type.. not a 4x4 post by any means. For quoting purposes, I will figure a couple more hours than normal.

 

Thanks Eric!

 

    

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If it helps your searching, the columns in that picture are known as 'ionic' style

House style would be Greek Revival

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Yes it does help.  Any terms that point me in a better direction on this style, helps tremendously.   

 

Thanks DE

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Not so much the structural part but for these Classical Styles of Homes the book "Get My House Right" will help with the "Style" stuff relatively cheaply.....

 

https://www.amazon.com/Get-Your-House-Right-Architectural/dp/1402791038

 

The Field Guide to American Houses is also good.....

 

https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-American-Houses-Revised/dp/0375710825

 

both available on Kindle or Kobo too.

 

M.

 

 

 

 

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Thanks Mick,

 

Its been a while since I researched books, and ordered.  These two links got me thinking of other projects too, like a pole barn house I am also doing. So I bought the two you listed and two others..  Thanks for the reminder that there is literature out there, that isn't found via Google. 

 

Of course wife think these are boring reads..  :-)  

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2 hours ago, mtldesigns said:

Of course wife think these are boring reads..  :-)  

 

 

I never said they weren't boring :)      each to their own though right?  they're good Throne Room reading ... :) 

 

Some don't like Get My House Right, but personally I like it and agree with a lot of the info but look at it as a guide only,

some seem to be really put out by Others ( not the Author) saying it is a definitive guide though.

 

M.

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19 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

they're good Throne Room reading ... :)

And that's why there is a new bright LED light/fart fan in the that room.. 

 

Looking forward to receiving and reading all four books.

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WHEN I DO THOSE POSTS IN SOUTH FLORIDA I USE A RED IRON ENGINEERED DESIGNED 4X4  OR 6X6 ECT TO  ANCHORED TO CONC  PAD FOOTING AND BOLTED TO BEAM EITHER EMBEDDED IN TO A CON. TIE BEAM OR MAYBE BOLTED TO TRUSS GIRDER.  WOOD I SUPPOSE THERE ARE ALOT OF COLUMN COVERS TO CHOOSE FROM wE USE A LOT OF PRECAST CONCRETE COLUMNS (OR USED TO)  WITH A SEAM VERTICAL 

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