pokke700 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Hey, everything worked quickly open plan eg change color switch from one to the other now suddenly everything will take a very long time when I open a camera view this takes o as long as a minus how is this and what can I do about it greetings Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 You have intentionally or unintentional added something that has significantly increased the complexity of your plan. CA now has to do a crazy number of computations to build the 3D model when you open a camera view. Difficult to say exactly what item(s) it is without the plan but I'm wondering what that dark area is right side of exterior wall. Are those maybe hundreds of 3D plants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokke700 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 yes, those are 9 small hedges that I have made into a hedge thanks for te fast replie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, pokke700 said: yes, those are 9 small hedges that I have made into a hedge thanks for te fast replie Did the slow down happen after you put those hedges in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokke700 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 it is possible yes i try it will remove it and see what it gives and what if this is the case how can i fix this thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokke700 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 yes that is the problem the hedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, pokke700 said: yes that is the problem the hedges You may have to find some other plant model to use for the hedges. Some of those 3D plants are extremely complex, the 2D plants are much more simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokke700 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 oke thanks for helping me so fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, pokke700 said: oke thanks for helping me so fast You are very welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 11:49 AM, TheKitchenAbode said: You are very welcome. I'm learning this stuff myself right now but I was under the impression that if you turn off those layers that are effecting the speed while you are working it will speed things up a bit. True, not true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 44 minutes ago, builtright3 said: I'm learning this stuff myself right now but I was under the impression that if you turn off those layers that are effecting the speed while you are working it will speed things up a bit. True, not true? Yes, but not in all cases. The 3D Model rebuild, which is likely the most time intensive process can be controlled to a certain extent via the display layer options. However, there appears to be circumstances where CA seems to ignore the display layers and performs a full 3D Model Rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TheKitchenAbode said: Yes, but not in all cases. The 3D Model rebuild, which is likely the most time intensive process can be controlled to a certain extent via the display layer options. However, there appears to be circumstances where CA seems to ignore the display layers and performs a full 3D Model Rebuild. Got it, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, builtright3 said: Got it, thank you You are very welcome. One other thing, the 3D model rebuild is really only applicable for camera views. A plan view is distinctly different, if panning and zooming is starting to slow down then turning off display layers can be highly effective as this will reduce the amount of vector graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 18 hours ago, TheKitchenAbode said: You are very welcome. One other thing, the 3D model rebuild is really only applicable for camera views. A plan view is distinctly different, if panning and zooming is starting to slow down then turning off display layers can be highly effective as this will reduce the amount of vector graphics. I think the problem comes in when there aren't many or any layers to turn off, eg plants or "fixtures" .... eg this plan below which contains about 30-50 3'x5' true 3D Grass "Blocks" Be patient if you decide to play with the plan..... 3D_Grass_Texture_Torture_Test.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Kbird1 said: I think the problem comes in when there aren't many or any layers to turn off, eg plants or "fixtures" .... eg this plan below which contains about 30-50 3'x5' true 3D Grass "Blocks" Be patient if you decide to play with the plan..... 3D_Grass_Texture_Torture_Test.plan I get an error when trying to open this plan. The CAD blocks are the issue, way too complex, they should just be a perimeter outline without all of the internal vector lines. Turning layers off has it's limitations, works fine unless the layer you need to work on is the one that contains the bulk of the plans vector lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 2 hours ago, TheKitchenAbode said: I get an error when trying to open this plan. Hmmmm that's curious , what kind of error? I don't get any.... The 3'x5' Block is actually from a Plan someone posted on the Forum a year or two ago , I think they got it from 3D warehouse IIRC and while it does look good in 3D , I think the amount of CAD lines CA has to draw on a Whole Lawn might be what is killing it......pretty much the same as fill a whole Terrain Perimeter with a hatch fill spaced at 1/8". M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Hmmmm that's curious , what kind of error? I don't get any.... The 3'x5' Block is actually from a Plan someone posted on the Forum a year or two ago , I think they got it from 3D warehouse IIRC and while it does look good in 3D , I think the amount of CAD lines CA has to draw on a Whole Lawn might be what is killing it......pretty much the same as fill a whole Terrain Perimeter with a hatch fill spaced at 1/8". M. Tried again and it loaded in. That one is more brutal than my Stress Test P-Solid as it adds a crazy number of surfaces, around 16 million. Now plan panning and zooming are impossible but opening up a camera view takes considerable time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Thought you might like it It's one of the few plans I have seen that causes all 6 cores on my 5820k to hit 100% ( using CoreTemp 1.12.1) ....going to a 3D overview Once in 3D it is no issue though, but my GPU hits full boost and stays there while panning around , most CA 3D isn't that intensive. * I cleaned up the plan a bit and reposted it above , but didn't see anything obviously causing any errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: Thought you might like it It's one of the few plans I have seen that causes all 6 cores on my 5820k to hit 100% ( using CoreTemp 1.12.1) ....going to a 3D overview Once in 3D it is no issue though, but my GPU hits full boost and stays there while panning around , most CA 3D isn't that intensive. Those 6 cores are maxing out all the time, it's just that due to lower complexity the duration is very short so they may only be maxed out for a few milliseconds. Same for my HD620, maxes out when rotating and zooming in 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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