Room Sch Ceiling Height?

[ACADuser]

The building has a 14' tall structural ceiling & metal framing at 8' in most rooms but not all.

I used the ceiling plane to get the 8' ceiling in a room but the Room Schedule still shows the higher ceiling.

What is the attribute I need to use for the drop ceiling in the Schedule?

 

Or do I need to use a different procedure for room ceilings?

 

[Alaskan_Son]

Alan,

 

Try using the Ceiling Finish and see if that works for you.  From the top down you'll need a very large air gap layer, and additional framing layer, and then lastly...an actual ceiling finish material.

[ACADuser]

Nothing in the Schedule seems to pick up the ceiling plane for height.

I did not want to build a separate floor at this time but looks like I may have too.

 

[Alaskan_Son]

Try adding the Ceiling Finish Height column to your schedule.

[Dermot]

Room schedules won't display the heights of any custom ceiling planes.  You can have any number of custom ceiling planes at various slopes that may cover any portion of a room and the room schedule is just not smart enough to determine which height(s) you want to display.

 

From what you have described, you might be better off using a shelf ceiling instead of a custom ceiling plane.  Shelf ceilings allow you to have an interior room with a lower ceiling and lower walls that are independent of the overall structure.  They will also display the correct ceiling height in the room schedule.

 

 

 

[Alaskan_Son]

14 minutes ago, Dermot said:

Room schedules won't display the heights of any custom ceiling planes.  You can have any number of custom ceiling planes at various slopes that may cover any portion of a room and the room schedule is just not smart enough to determine which height(s) you want to display.

 

From what you have described, you might be better off using a shelf ceiling instead of a custom ceiling plane.  Shelf ceilings allow you to have an interior room with a lower ceiling and lower walls that are independent of the overall structure.  They will also display the correct ceiling height in the room schedule.

 

 

 

 

Hey, that's not a bad idea Dermot. 

 

This method will only work for rooms within rooms though so here's what you'll have to do if your room isn't in another room...

• If you don't already have one of these, create yourself a custom room divider wall type that has a single insulation air gap layer .01" thick.
• Select the room you would like to have a dropped ceiling and make sure it is excluded from schedule (not necessary if you aren't using a schedule.
• Draw some walls around the perimeter of your room using your custom room divider wall type until they form an enclosed room.
• Drag those walls till they snap to your main walls.
• Open your enclosed room, set the structure to have a shelf ceiling, and adjust the ceiling height and structure settings as desired.

Note that if you're using a room finish schedule with a wall finish material column you may need to create a special gap material with the same name as your main interior wall finish.

[ACADuser]

And what is a shelf ceiling?

 

For the wall finishes, they want all 4 walls listed (N S E W) or maybe 1 2 3 4

How would you do that in a Room Schedule?

 

[DRAWZILLA]

Dermot, I'm going to give that one a shot.

What I do now is have custom macro room labels and in this case just add the correct ceiling height to it for that room.

[ACADuser]

OK I figured it out and it does display properly in the Schedule.

I'll have to see how they want the walls to terminate. Sometimes above the ceiling line

which is a problem actual construction precess.