Westlanedesigns Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I recently had a new desktop built. My video card is a Nvidia GTX 1070. It is an 8GB card. when I look at my message log it says I only have 4GB of ram. OpenGL Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Renderer: GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 384.76 OpenGL VRam: 4095 OpenGL GPU Count: 1 OpenGL GPU VRam: 4095 OpenGL GPU Driver Name: nvoglv64 OpenGL GPU Driver Date: 6-27-2017 OpenGL GPU Driver Version: 22.21.13.8476 OpenGL GPU Model: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 OpenGL GPU Device Path: pci\ven_10de&dev_1b81 Here is my system. Windows 10 Pro Intel Core i7-6900K Nvidia GTX 1070 Crucial MX300 275GB SSD Crucial 4X4GB DDR4 2400 RAM Anyone have a similar issue? I have Chief X8 and X9 on this system. The message log in both programs say the same thing. If anyone is running Windows 10 Pro with an 8GB card can they have a look at their message log and tell me if you are getting a similar message? This could just be a logging issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Yes I have the same card and it reports 4095MB in Preferences > Video Card Status. How are you accessing this "Message Log" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westlanedesigns Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 go to windows RUN type in %localappdata% open Chief Architect X9 folder Message Log.txt should be there. If do CTRL+F and type in Diagnostic it will bring you to the information about the video card and other fun stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 My Message Log.txt reads the same as yours except you have a newer driver. Not quite sure where you do CTRL+F from but Nvidia and Windows read it as 8192MB but I did see another program recently that read it also as 4GB and I was surprised at the time but now I can't remember what software it was. It does seem to be a known issue that chief does not report it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westlanedesigns Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 Once I opened the TXT file I used CTRL+F to find the spot instead of scrolling down. Just lazy. Thanks for looking. I am not sure if this issue is related to my other issue. This is helping me troubleshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMc Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Yes, I have the same card in my notebook, with the same recognition of only 4 GB. Does this mean that Chief is only using 4 GB, or is it just reporting wrongly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I think it is just reporting incorrectly from what I recall from previous discussions but I think it should be an easy fix for Chief that would prevent a lot of questions. If anyone has evidence otherwise or can confirm this it would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMc Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Thanks, Chopsaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcaffee Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 To view accurate technical specs of the GPU, try... https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I believe what you are seeing is the amount of video card memory Open GL has set aside for it's use. Keep in mind that each running program, depending upon the total amount of available memory, will block out a certain amount of memory for it's exclusive use. Your video card has to service more than just CA, all of your other running programs are also using the video card and as such they also need memory. Things will be faster if they are not over writing each others data so they divide this up. I would not be concerned with this, it's normal. Download GPUz and it will tell you how much video card memory is actually in use. I think you will be surprised at how little of your 8 GB is actual being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westlanedesigns Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 5 hours ago, jcaffee said: To view accurate technical specs of the GPU, try... https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ Thanks for the advice. I know the specs of the card. I am trying to determine if Chief is using it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westlanedesigns Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, TheKitchenAbode said: I believe what you are seeing is the amount of video card memory Open GL has set aside for it's use. Keep in mind that each running program, depending upon the total amount of available memory, will block out a certain amount of memory for it's exclusive use. Your video card has to service more than just CA, all of your other running programs are also using the video card and as such they also need memory. Things will be faster if they are not over writing each others data so they divide this up. I would not be concerned with this, it's normal. Download GPUz and it will tell you how much video card memory is actually in use. I think you will be surprised at how little of your 8 GB is actual being used. I have two other machines the vRAM in the message log for both of those machines displays the same RAM value of the card. My notebook has 2GB message log says 2GB, My older desktop has 4GB message log says 4GB. I am just trying to figure out If there is a problem with Windows 10 ability to use 8GB or CA to use 8GB, or if there is a problem with my desktop. Based on Chopsaw's response it would appear it is either W10 or CA. If I have time I will pull the 8GB card and put it in my older machine that is running W7, although I think I read somewhere that W7 was only capable of using 4GB of video card RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just now, Westlanedesigns said: I have two other machines the vRAM in the message log for both of those machines displays the same RAM value of the card. My notebook has 2GB message log says 2GB, My older desktop has 4GB message log says 4GB. I am just trying to figure out If there is a problem with Windows 10 ability to use 8GB or CA to use 8GB, or if there is a problem with my desktop. Based on Chopsaw's response it would appear it is either W10 or CA. If I have time I will pull the 8GB card and put it in my older machine that is running W7, although I think I read somewhere that W7 was only capable of using 4GB of video card RAM. Download GPUz, that's the program that is used by just about every graphics card tester. It will tell you what is really happening. The difference you are seeing may be due to the fact that Open GL will allocate whatever it can up to 4GB, it could be that for Open Gl it is unlikely to need more than that. As I said, you will likely be suprised at how little video card memory is actually be used. Also, allocate memory is differfent from actual memory used. Actual memory being used is what really determines functionality, problems will only arise when actual exceeds allocated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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