Larry_Sweeney

You can edit the lines in layout, but it should be one of the last things you do. Everytime the elevation is open in layout all the edited lines will return.

Thanks Greg---much appreciated for your time. If I may make one comment. The precast cement unit usually has an 8" tread and 8" rise. This is true for the units made in our area anyway. In the picture it looks to be less both ways. I may be incorrect. It's a great symbol with good detail.

Joe......Yes, I agree as I sort of stated above. ------------- Maybe X8!!!

Bill.....Using the "curtain" is defintely outside the box thinking. That was discussed not to long ago in a thread. I try to use CA's windows as much as possible and then add a "correct" sill symbol at the right height and attachment to frame and a custom stool symbol to the inside in the correct placement. Correct stool placement, I think, is quite critical when when doing special cabinetry and wall panels, which I get into all the time. I just wish CA would work on these two items. If they fixed the windows and stairs-----------I wouldn't have anything to rant about!

Mark.......I understand your profile now. I was thinking you were after a "thumbnail roundover" profile, which is a quite common edge for cabinet drawers and doors and would produce the "line" you were trying to eliminate.

Joe.......Thanks. I appreciate the info. I'll give the subject more thought (go back through earlier threads on ruby to refresh me) and get back to you on what I think I would like and the possibilities. Have a great day.

I've done a lot of restoration projects over the years and have made many custom window symbols because CA's windows are so "lacking" in there look and how a real window is put together-------especially historical type units. I find from time to time all I need to do is "tweak" one of the units I've already made and it would work. Things such as jamb width or casing changes. Up to now I just make a whole new symbol. Is there anyway in CA to take a window symbol and "open/explode" it so one can make these minor changes without building a whole new symbol? Maybe I'm going about the actual window symbol building process all wrong to start with. Does anyone else build custom window symbols? What is your process? Many times I don't put trim on the inside until the window symbol is installed in the wall. One problem I found with custom window symbols is the the "hole" for the window is as large as the exterior trim. This can be a real problem if the interior casing is not the same width. I usually end up making a "pass through" hole in the wall the size I want and add the custom window as a "fixture" to get the look I'm after (yes a real PITA). This whole process could be avoidable if CA would give us the ability to design a more correct looking window to start with. To me the two biggest problems with CA's windows it the exterior sill (placement elevation, style and slope. Sills aren't attached to the frame, they are part of the frame) and the interior stool (elevation and stool should go to sash and not the window frame) Of couse this has been discussed since at least V10 (when I came on board in 2006) and probably before. Here we are 9 years later still dealing with the same problem. I think anything brought up about windows (or stairs) in "Suggestions" is sent to the bottom of the list pile. Okay-----so much for my ranting-----just my day. If anyone has suggestions for my window symbols is will be much appreciated. Have a great day.

It looks like maybe your roof planes are not quite on the same elevation. It's asked all the time---POST THE PLAN! Without seeing the plan it's very difficult to find the problem. There are numerous things that can cause this.

This is part of my problem. I'm not sure what I would want to do/use because I just don't have an understanding of ruby. (the old "CATCH 22") When I read threads on the subject and someone talks about what they did with ruby I think "hey, that's neat", but up to that point I didn't even give it a thought. So refering to your question I'll have to give it more thought. To be truthful, for the time being, I would take everything that's "out there" and what works for me I would use and what doesn't I would "set aside" for the time being. It's like everything else in CA. Some things I use all the time, some things I use now and then, and some things I've never used --- yet! (and that's mainly because I don't have a full understanding of the tool) CA is a great program that most people can get up and running with quite quickly, but learning the "ends and outs" of what the program can really do in unending. At least this is my perspective.

Mark.............Forgive me for asking (maybe not enough coffee this morning), but what "edge" are you refering too?

I wish I could understand more about macros and/or using ruby. I read these ruby discussion threads from time to time and from the discussions I can see you can do a lot using macros, but I really don't have a clue to ruby or want to take what little extra time I do have to learn it (too many other projects), but someday I might have to take time. There seems to be a few very creative people on the forum who understand this subject very well and have put "the system" to very good use. I'm sure there are many others like me (or at least I hope) and I for one would be willing to purchase a series of these macros. Maybe they could be broke down into the areas where they are used along with training videos tied to them so if there are others like me we can all get on the "ruby band wagon" and develope a better understanding of ruby. If this isn't possible can someone at least point me in a direction where I can learn a better understanding of ruby. (I just don't get it!) Maybe something by video. I'll have check out Youtube and see what's on there.

Glenn....Thanks again. CA IS a great program. A person (me) just has to learn how to use it correctly. Have a great day.

Glenn......Thanks. I knew I ran across it before, but for the life of me I could not locate it. I wish there was a better type search engine for finding these kinds of items----if that's possible.

OKAY, I have to ask. Where do I go to uncheck this? I've been looking in perferences and defaults, but I'm not finding it.

Todd, I also got the same results. I went to the second floorplan and clicked the "Perpective Floor Overview" and got the results shown in the attachment. Notice what I got circled in the attachment. When showing the 2nd flr. plan and then clicking of the floor overview what shows is the "full overview icon". I'll have to go back and open X6 and see what icon shows up when the "Floor view" is clicked on in the earlier version. I noticed you had your roofs showing on your first floor so I moved all the roofs up to the 2nd floor and the roofs did not show in the 2nd flr. overview. I'm not sure if it worked this way in X6 or not. I'll have to review this.

I think the smaller unit is a window. If you make it a window the partition should go away.

If i'm following what you are saying the labeling of these cabinets will be pretty wild in plan view.

Bill-----So it's my understanding of what you did was to make the "bead" as a custom door unit for areas of open shelving-----correct? Where there are doors and drawers you would make custom doors and drawers with the "bead moulding" around the outsider perimeter. I guess this is as close as it can be done in CA. This is a common feature for cabinets in our area also. Many of the homes I work on are restorations or reproductions of early architecture of this area---(early 19th century).

Has anyone dealt with this problem? I have a customer that wants me to design a library with a late "18th century" look. With this idea in mind he wants beaded stiles and rails on all the frames. I suppose I could get "the look" by making custom doors and drawers with a bead around them, but how would I accomplish the beaded look where there is open shelving? Is there something in the bonus cabinet catalogs that accomplish this look? As always all advice is very appreciated.

Walls work most of the time, but if you go with sloped sides you may have to use p-solids. There are manys ways to accomplish fireplaces. It depends on the look you are after, how you want it to look in plan view and how it is actually going to be built. This is an area that needs improvement in CA. As you gain experience in this program items like fireplaces are fairly easy to figure out. It's just that the "experience part" can be very frustrating at times. There are many threads on this forum about this subject in the "new" and "old" ChiefTalk. Try doing some searches to learn more on the subject if needed and how others accomplish fireplace problems.

Thanks to all for your opinions. I guess for now I'll stay with X6 and just "play around" in X7. Have a great day. I keep telling myself that but our weather has been miserable here in northeast Pennsylvania. Can't wait for Spring this year.

Has anyone noticed if the lag was more noticeable when pulling an X6 plan into X7 and finishing it or does the lag occur and seem about the same if the plan started out in X7?

I've been away from CA for a couple of months on other projects but I downloaded X7 beta recently and I'm getting ready to start a new project (actually three) and am wondering what are the thoughts on the forum with using the beta version for new projects. Does anyone have any misgivings for doing this? Thanks and always appreciate everyone's advice.

This type of detail can be done easily using p-solids. When adding the wood grain material you will probably have to copy the material and change the grain direction to conform with the angle of the timbers you make.

Perry, did you mean "without or with" a hiccup? If it was a "hiccup" what were the problems?