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More of a follow up on your response Connor, and its more of just a curiosity thing. Why in 16 does it do this automatically, but not 17?

NO that was a X16 file opened up into X17.. it now is a 17 file... @ConnorE So I wasn't crazy... and I remember somewhere seeing this.. prob the X17 preview vid. Thanks. I am ganging away now.

Ok I thought I was seeing things... or saw things IDK. I opened a plan I last opened and saved in x16, and my switches are "ganged" as a block. I like this, but how did this happen? I know I didn't do it on purpose.. and if its a X17 thing, why are the models I am working in 17 not doing this? I don't see any setting for this kind of thing.

I see "Save As" under the File pull down. I also have mine set up not using the project management tool too, so I don't know if that is different. Can you make a copy via explorer?

@PitMan71 The projects I was real close to being competed in X16, I finished in 16. I did have a couple others started in 16, but then saved in 17, and I have not seen any issues thus far. That bears the question.. how many versions should we keep on our PCs? I have 12-17.

can you share a screen grab of this?

Is that wall and attic wall by chance and is it needed?

This will be fun.. and thanks for sharing. This is quite the roof line, I lost count on how many roof planes and all the different pitches. But to answer your question on not having a "upstairs layout", I don't think you need one. The shell should get you what you need to start with. By looking at this 39 page attachment, with measurements, pitches and photos, I would think you could do this. Page 5 gives you all the wall dimensions.. draw that profile first. Create second floor by using the same profile from below, then adjust accordingly by using the pictures. Page 9 gives you the soffit depths. Pages 11-18 give elevation profiles and more dims. On page 32 a more detailed roof layout with ridge and valley dims. Lastly, all the pictures of this house can get you a good idea on how exterior walls align, for example over the garage. It's a lot, but I think you got this, just do one step at a time. Curious on what "Hoover" is and what they do? I like this document BTW... I am assuming your using Chief Premier, X17

Your looking for a pdf plan set, not the Chief model -layout, right? Something like the attached?

A couple of questions for you. First, are you going to provide a wall framing detail showing the studs OC dims? And are you going to run a report for materials and cut list? Are these post a true 6x6 or are the 5-1/2 x 5-1/2? I asked this because I did have a home where the post were a true 8x8s. That changed my approach some. The few I have done the builders could have cared less where I showed the studs, so I located my post per the spacing requirements, then I drew a wall, a normal wall right on top of it, with the post being centered with the framing. I am assuming the girts are on the outside of the post of your build which makes it a little different than what I had to do. With the post of mine being true 8x8s, I had to put girts inside the post to post to make up for the difference with the 7-1/4" wd studs. Builders Idea... and it seemed to work since their living in it now. On the second picture, you'll see I just placed my wall in-line with the post. I did place some "end view" of stud cad blocks in my floor plan, for understanding how I wanted this to frame without doing a framing plan. Also, you have to keep in mind the requirement for the kings and jacks framing at the windows and doors, so that was another reason I placed those stud end views. Hope this helps...

@jknapp SAME HERE

I believe so Richard. Chief will not recognize those lines as anything but lines. The need to be elevation lines to work, IF your trying to show the contours in the 3D model.

I have before without issues, I haven't tried it in 17 though.

@Ed_Orum I’ve had this come up before and have gone back and forth on the best approach. A few key questions come to mind: Is the garage being built at the same time as the house, or before or after? When you say the garage will not inherit any properties of the house, can you clarify why? For example, will it use different building materials, a different framing method, or a different construction standard? How close will the garage be to the house? If it’s located a significant distance away on the property, it raises the question of why it would be shown on the same plan set at all. One possible approach would be to reference the garage within the same overall plan set but place it on its own dedicated sheets, showing its location clearly on the site/plot plan. If the garage construction is planned years down the road, it may make more sense to issue it as a completely separate package, especially since permits are typically time-limited and may expire before construction begins. That said, at the end of the day, it’s generally best to accommodate the client’s request—as long as it’s legal, ethical, and doesn’t create downstream issues. I do understand why the builder would prefer to submit everything at the same time; it likely saves both time and permitting fees.

Hi Gary, I tried this on a 2x4 wall and got the same results. I'm thinking it has to do with wall framing, and that makes sense. When I change that wall to a 2x6, the niche filled in, except at the bottom corners (1 and 2 attached). However, when I continued either wall in the plan view, the whole box did fill in (3 and 4 attached) .