Joe_Carrick

It would be much better if Chief allowed the 2D Block to be offset in the y direction as is the 3D Symbol - actually, that should be automatic (maybe in X8). Then we could make the 2D Block be whatever we wanted and make the Plan View perfect. I tried using exterior casings to cover the ends of the studs but they can't be inset. Maybe Bill's "Blinds" method could be used for that.

OK, Here's what I've come up with. After inserting the Window Symbol in the Plan I had to do a few things: 1. Set the 2D Block to None 2. Adjust the Frame Size to 3" Wide (all around) 3. Set the Frame Depth to 4" inset 4" 4. Add Interior Casings (optional) Manually edit the Label to reflect the actual Window size instead of the Symbol Size. It isn't perfect, but it Frames as an 8" Stud Wall and there are no extra lines to remove. I haven't checked to see what the Schedule says, but it should be possible to modify anything that isn't accurate in the Component dbx.

Scott, I said I wasn't going to do this - but I think I've found a solution. I'm going to take Joey's method to create a Window Symbol which I will then insert into an 8" stud wall. I need to check on a couple of the settings needed but I think it will provide everything you want. Stay tuned......

Bob, I would use an 18" deep Base Cabinet in this case and a custom Counter Top. That's going to be much less expensive to build and install.

I think someone suggested that before - but you should send it in anyway. It's a really good idea.

Joey, Could you use a Pony Wall at the bottom and then just use the WMR above? At least the Pony Wall would auto frame.

Now, I suspect Scott will complain the upper and lower infill WMR don't "frame".

I love it. Nice job Joey!!!!! I'm definitely adding that to my bag of tricks.

Dan, Technically you may be right - the term "battered" means "inward sloping". However, in Architecture it generally means the outer surface is "inward sloping" while the inner surface is vertical. In my OP I stated: Please - don't complicate this by expanding the discussion to walls that are sloped on the inside and outside. Those are a very different item which would need to be discussed separately. The reason for this request is fairly simple: It's almost impossible to have a Door in a wall that slopes on both the interior and exterior surfaces - unless the wall is thick enough for the Door to still be vertical.

OK Scott, I stand chastised. I will refrain from suggesting any solutions to your problems from now on. I'm not sure how my solutions to "Construction Lines" is more trouble - I've been using it for about 30 years (AutoCAD at first) and it was one of the first things I set up in my Chief Profile Plan. I have the icon on my Toolbar to select the Layer and have a hotkey for it as well. BTW, if CA would fix the Custom Window Symbols as I have requested in the past --- we wouldn't be having this discourse about the "Bucking Detail".

Scott, That video has me ROFLMAO. Why don't you just create an Exterior Fixture Symbol (start with your Window) with the stucco surround? You can move that into the "Pass Thru" opening in any wall and resize it as needed to fit the opening. Yes, I know it won't show up in the Window Schedule but you can put a wall off to the side in your Plan and add as many extra windows as you want to have them in the Schedule.

Nick, I think Doug is saying that it could be easily done by programming - not necessarily using Chief as it now exists.

You might also want to check on the Home Designer website https://hometalk.chiefarchitect.com/ since there may be some differences between your program and Chief Architect.

That was exactly my take. I think that's what he eventually decided to do.

You'll have to talk to Scott about that - he was doing that originally.

Graham, That was my suggestion in Post #5 early this morning.

Change it on one Cabinet (1 base, 1 wall, 1 tall) and then select each of those and click "Set as Default"

The problem with that is that Chief hasn't given enough control of the 2D and 3D Window Symbols. This was an addition in X6 but it was never properly completed. It drives me crazy.

Bill, What do those look like in Plan View? Is the "Blind" a molding profile?

Of course that's the way it's built in the real world. But how do you do it in Chief?

Yeah, I've been trying to figure out if I could do that with some sort of custom exterior casing - something else to consider.

Scott, Maybe this will work - I used a 2x8 stud wall and messed with the window frame. You can also make some adjustments with the Options Panel of the Window dbx.

Scott, I assume you really want a 2x8 studs. If that's the case you could just do the double 2x4 stud wall where the windows are - or even a Wall Type with and extra exterior stucco thickness of 4". Then recess the Window to the Main Layer.

Sounds like you have incorrectly created something. Post the Plan and identify where the problems are occurring - then we can help.

Jon, I can assure you that the Feedback Panel doesn't have that sort of power. OTOH, I'm also sure CA really wants to modernize and simplify the codebase, if for no other reason than to make it much easier to maintain the Application. No software company likes spaghetti.