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Set it once per plan file or template and use that plan/template for future projects. I think Chief comes with that box checked as default.

OK cool, I was working on the problem he posted about but there's always more areas to repair if I've got anything to do with a plan. See if you can fix this anomaly after the walls are redefined. Oh Yeah same corner the OP posted about

After adjusting the walls (and it's not for sure i got them right) it LOOKS like the line is gone. Didn't mess with the parapet wall. But when looking closely there's another, smaller double line that someone else might need to fix.

The line that the OP was referring to is still there after you remove that CAD block - see attached vector view of the plan you attached.

ACAD (sorry don't know your name) you also have many many Layer sets that renamed each time you send a plan to Layout. Very few use this 'feature'. If you uncheck the box below you'll be able to mange your Layer Sets much better.

Can't find that CAD block Raymond and I think you're right that it might fix the line but the walls are not defined correctly to give consistent results - unless I'm missing something. OK I see custom counter tops on top of the wall? Still think the structure need to be right to get consistent results.

Once you have your default walls defined correctly double click on the exterior wall icon and select that newly defined wall as your default exterior wall, then anytime you draw an exterior wall your exterior and interior layers will be in the right places.

Don't know your name but check this plan I attached. Look at the wall definitions and compare to what you had. The walls are more accurately defined as real world as built walls with CMU block, stucco exterior and drywall interior with the exterior CMU wall as the main layer. Then I reversed the layers which you shouldn't have had to do but it got a single line instead of the 2 you had. I'm not sure what you want to do with the parapet wall definition so I left it alone but maybe the new definitions will help you define the parapet the way you want it. Defining your walls correctly is a very important first step when starting a plan as well as defining your default floor structures. Walls are usually defined from the top (exterior surface) to the bottom (interior finish) with pretty much any material in between. You had all 3 layers defined as the main layers, with the top (exterior layer) as 7 5/8" stucco the middle layer as 3/4" air gap and the bottom (interior layer) as drywall. Here's another way to define the wall that works better. See if that helps Wall Test NEW WALLS.zip

Gilles, Trusses will follow the ceiling planes and must be placed after the ceiling planes are defined. Also ceiling planes' pitches are almost always less than the roof pitch so getting what you're showing is hard with trusses, but possible. I attached a plan that has 4:12 roof pitch, and 2:12 ceiling pitch, then the trusses are drawn. It's not a very good representation of real world truss framing but might help you figure it out. Oh yeah to get the attic condition just add a second floor and apply the same truss/ceiling plane settings. truss plan 1.plan

X6 will still miss a Layout update now and again and I almost never catch it until it's been printed wrong. Elevations, as mentioned need to be opened and closed and updated and if you have a stubborn plan view that hasn't updated click on the Layout Box Layers dbx and cancel out - it will update the view.

Way to go Chris. Nice job.

Better Dennis, I never have the patience to adjust all the RT stuff. It sure pays off when you do.

Yeah I know Chris - just ribbing you and I certainly wouldn't upgrade a computer till I was ready. anyway 5 passes 1:41 Don't have all the texture either.

That looks much better but 27 minutes? You could buy a new computer for the time it would save you.

7 passes 1:28. Not great but you should be getting better results than what you're showing. BTW I brightened it up using the Image Properties Slider

Nice work Robert - love this forum.

Val, I'm no ACAD expert but I tried to open the file in Draftsight (an ACAD clone) and I got nothing. Same when importing into Chief - nothing I can see. No white lines, no nothing. There are settings and line weights in ACAD that can alter behaviors but I'm not familiar with them. Can you view the file in any other program?

Yeah been there, done that myself. Don't mean to challenge your reasons just really curious to see what I can learn.

To me it matters why so I can perhaps learn something new and understand a little more about how/why others work the way they do and to improve my work flow when possible.

Same here Perry, still curious how/why others work the way they do.

Rob, I'm curious as to why you wouldn't just create a simple detail and refer to it in your Con Docs? Would take a few minutes at most. Do you need the framing view for a presentation perhaps? Genuinely curious about the thought process because I struggle with the 2 methods (perfect framing model versus quick CAD detail) many times.

This thread has been a really great read. Thanks for the thought and ideas from everyone - very insightful.

Webbed floor trusses are part of Chief's basic tool kit, just set the floor joist depth to the depth of the truss you want, but I couldn't find a way to pitch them for a roof structure. That would be a good question for the forum. Do a google search for dropped ceilings https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=suspended%20ceiling%20chief%20architect quite a few articles, and there's a training video too #311 show one method. "In CA all cleanup efforts are lost when changing to a revised section" For me this was the hardest transition - working with 'live' sections. Once the model is built correctly (this is by far the most difficult part of Chief) the 'live' sections change with each change to the plan, no revisions are lost you just move annotation if needed and the sections can include any CAD detail you choose.

Yeah need more clarification. In the field or in Chief? In the field they are supported by any number of custom made brackets. In chief I would re-create those brackets by taking an elevation shot of the side of the cabinet. Draw your shape, edit and place in position. You could also create a symbol in Chief then import that, place in position.

I see I am venturing dangerously close to defending Chief as a software program but believe me when I say i would have echoed everyone's sentiments about Chiefs limited CAD tools and limited focus a few years ago. I couldn't build a proper model to save my life (still have troubles as this forum is well aware) and was stuck with Chief's 2D CAD tools for a lot of revisions and hand work. Tedious doesn't even come close to describe the pain. Now I understand Chief and the reason the program exists it is much easier to deal with. A cursory glance will leave any ACAD user frustrated to say the least. A dedicated couple years and it's second nature and very good indeed for small residential and light commercial.