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Yes, using a line as Rob suggested worked well. Thanks again for the input today. Kevin

Thanks Rob. I've finally got it. I appreciate all the help. Kevin

Thanks Rob. I didn't realize I could show "ceiling break lines". I think your method is faster to get the molding line, but doesn't give any visual feedback for offsetting the molding in relation to the ceiling. I now know three methods for creating the molding polyline (importing from another app, drawing from ortho camera, and drawing from plan view taking into account slope gain factor), but can't for the life of me figure out how to place the molding on the ceiling. As I explained above, I can't move it in a standard camera view accurately, I can't move it in a clipped cross section view, and I can't see it in a standard cross section view. When I delete surfaces in standard cross section, one move of the mouse and they all come back. I'd appreciate any help placing the molding polyline where it belongs on the ceiling. Kevin

Thank you Mark. I'm getting there. The ortho camera is quite cool. I needed to use the back view as when using top, it was necessary to delete the roof planes to see underneath and by doing so I had nothing to trace for my molding as the ceiling was then gone. Attached are some images for anyone that might be following and unfamiliar with using a ortho camera. Michael states under step 8 "Cut that closed polyline, paste into a plan view." I tried pasting in the plan view and nothing shows up. He says "a" plan view which leads me to believe I have to create a new one or do I paste it back into the ortho camera view? Either way, I don't see my polyline so that I can convert to molding.

Mark thanks. I'm still not getting it. Do I go back to plan view or this orthographic view that I just created what you're calling the "plan view"? I'm not sure where I am to use the "make parallel/perpendicular tool". Not that this part really matters if I am unable to position the newly created molding line. I usually pick these things up quite quickly - not the case here. I appreciate the feedback.

Michael - thanks for the explanation. I am not following at all. In step 2 you instruct to create an orthographic full overview and in step 3 you say to use the 3D > View direction. Are these steps "either or"? I already have the shape. It was drawn in FormZ and imported into Chief. But, I am not able to get it to attach to the ceiling slope (whether specified as flush mounted to ceiling or default location). I can get close, but when I move it slightly upward in a camera view, it disappears. I have tried moving it from a clipped cross section - evidently it is not possible to move objects in such views as I don't see the bounding box or the move handle. I have also used a cross section and deleted surfaces so that I can see what I'm doing. Every time I move the molding, the deleted surfaces reappear making it impossible to position. Your explanation above is using methods & tools that I have yet to try. I have not been able to get past step 2. Thanks again.

Dermot. I went ahead and created the symbol in FormZ and imported back into Chief. I really like your idea of using it as a flush mounted from ceiling object, but cannot get it to work. Would you mind taking a look at the symbol and let me know where I've gone wrong? I have attached the .plan and .calibz file. Thanks! tray applied molding.calibz tray_applied_molding.plan

Eric - I think your method would work, but these aren't ceiling planes - they're roof planes. When I make a symbol from them, the intersections are not taken into account. Is it possible to generate a non-orthographic elevation in CA (a section view perpendicular to the roof plane where I can outline this shape with a molding polyline)?

Thanks Everyone. Eric - I didn't realize you could convert a ceiling/roof plane into a symbol. I'll give this a try when I get to the office. Thanks again.

I've got a 12/12 tray ceiling to which I want to apply a base cap molding - see attached. I have tried using a 3D molding polyline drawn in an elevation view and rotating. Doesn't work. Could anyone tell me how you would go about doing this? Thanks, Kevin

Thanks Michael. Great fix!

I was able to get them to work. Under railing make sure to check "balusters" and under "newels/balusters" set balusters to square or whatever. I'd attached the file, but I'm using X12 and this was created in X11.

t Thanks Mick. I started with X11, so didn't even know these existed. Kevin

Thanks Alan. I appreciate you looking into this. I will let you know what CA says about this glitch.

Thanks Steve. I think you've hit on the problem. I am using X12 with the stair break tool. I will report this to Chief. Also, the stairs when drawn did not automatically open the 2nd floor platform. I had to create a well from the 2nd floor using "open below".

Thanks Alan!

Alan - thanks for looking at this. Would you mind uploading your corrected .plan file? I'm not getting the same result no matter what. That said, my file has gotten a lot more complicated as I completed the kitchen layout. Kevin

Steve - do you happen to have the file with your corrections? I am trying as you suggest and I get what's shown in the image below. The file is now too large to upload. Thanks!

Thank you Eric. Now that I know it's not user error, I will report to CA.

Thanks Steve. I think your solution is the best I can do for now. I appreciate the help. Kevin

Thanks Ryan. I did put a second floor on the building as I thought this might correct things - no luck... I think Steve's solution is the best for now.

Thanks Steve. If I remove the invisible wall, how do I differentiate the ceiling heights? The kitchen area is 9' and the great room is 10'. You are correct, there is a single header member that surround the cut-out for the stairs.

Thanks Steve. That's getting me much closer. I still have a small part missing. Any ideas? Thanks again, Kevin

Perry - thanks for the reply. When I untick "invisible", I get the attached. I'm wondering if I can do this with one large doorway with no casings or jamb. Or would this cause other issues? Renee - I did use an invisible wall. The entire downstairs has 9' ceilings with only the great room at 10'. There is no soffit in the kitchen. I couldn't tell you how the place is framed as I haven't been on the second floor yet. I was just trying to get an illustration together for the kitchen. I don't follow when you say "just delete the invisible wall and it will right itself". This was initially drawn as a room divider. Thanks for the input. Kevin

I've got a 9' ceiling next to a 10' ceiling. The wall surface where they meet won't fill in with drywall - 1st image attached. The second image is an actual photo of the space, however, from the other direction. I've used a room divider as a break between these different ceiling heights. Would someone please show me how this is done? Plan is also attached. Thanks, Kevin CHF_Fabrizio_Kitchen_02-14-20.plan