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I suppose you could run the plywood under the stringers if the headroom were not an issue. In place of the clips you could use a Simpson H16. Have you been using the SDWC screws from Simpson? Cost 60 cent to 1$ each but fast to install and quite strong. https://www.strongtie.com/strongdrive_interiorwoodscrews/sdwc_screw/p/strong-drive-sdwc-truss-screw Off to dinner, catch you later.

Nice idea Mick, but when you consider the run of the grain of the wood you are not gaining much strength. But it would be easier to install.

Yes it was not clear in the previous section. Thanks for checking though. Another set of eyes is always good. I seldom have someone to look things over. The subs ask the GC & then I get a call and the fire drill begins.

Stringers attach to two 2x8.

The CAD Mask only work in 2D. Eric, Very nice. I'll dig into it tomorrow. How much work was it? I have 3 stairs in 3 building to do. Actually, I only need to do that when I need a camera view of the space.

The trouble with the workarounds is when they come back to you and ask the stair 2 & 3 be pushed forward 3 inches. If you use some tricky landings and such the editing can be tedious. Just wish ceiling plane would cut the floor envelope. I'd send to Tech support but don't want to be called (inferred) an idiot twice in one week.

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I'm trying to cut the pointy floor off so it looks like it will be built. At this point I tried the sloped ceiling plane but the pointy thing persists. I circled what looks like part of the ceiling plain. Guess I can blank it out with a poly object for section views but no help with camera views.

I have this condition time after time. Is there a method that will handle this condition? Remove the ceiling portion while still having a floor under the foot of the stair.

Well no help from Chief ================================================= Wednesday, Feb 07, 2018 - 01:59 PM PST Hello Charles, Thank you for contacting Technical Support. This is not really a software issue but a how-to question. For these types of questions, I recommend taking advantage of the ChiefTalk forum or your other online help resources: https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/ https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/ https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/database.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/products/livedemo.html https://cloud.chiefarchitect.com/1/pdf/documentation/chief-architect-x10-tutorial-guide.pdf https://cloud.chiefarchitect.com/1/pdf/documentation/chief-architect-x10-reference-manual.pdf For example, if you search the Knowledgebase for this type of scenario, you should find this article: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-01855/modifying-garage-floor-and-stem-wall-heights.html In that example, they use a garage, but because porches share a similar floor structure, you can apply the same techniques to raise or lower the floor for the porch to whatever you want. ================================================= Charles Butler Thursday, Feb 08, 2018 - 09:25 AM PST Thanks but auto foundations are usually good for the first build & then any modifications I make need to stay. So keeping auto foundations does not work for me. See attached picture of the front porch & the mess the foundation causes in the corners. I was able to use the wall layer tool to fix the corner but when the drawing is saved & reopened the problem reappears. I have yet to find a helpful comprehensive foundation video or article for complex foundations. ================================================= Monday, Feb 12, 2018 - 06:26 AM PST You could just adjust the height of the stem wall in the room specification for the porch as shown in that article I sent. It fixes the wall issues that you encountered and doesn't require rebuilding the foundation. But, if you don't want to do that I would recommend posting this to the forums or setting up time with a trainer for additional suggestions. ================================================= Charles Butler Tuesday, Feb 13, 2018 - 02:49 PM PST I've already tried the Forum before I came to you. https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/16813-concrete-porch-wall-choice/?do=findComment&comment=141286 I also tried auto rebuild foundations, no luck. Looking at several videos and no solution. I've been using Chief from X7 to X10 so I would think I could easily fix this issue. So why not send me the corrected plan file so I can look at what you did to fix it? ================================================= Wednesday, Feb 14, 2018 - 06:03 AM PST Technical Support can troubleshoot problems with the software, but we cannot offer plan completion services or training. So, I offered you a solution, if you don't know how to adjust the stem wall height of the porch, I suggest reading the article I sent you. That's where I learned about the stem wall height settings that worked for me on your porch. Again, I didn't have to rebuild the foundation to make it work. ================================================= Apparently, I am too stupid to figure this out on my own so would one of you more knowledgeable folks offer a solution? Thanks for any advice on this matter.

Mick, They need to be top chord bearing on a block wall. I guess if the wall is "Baloon through the ceiling" maybe the truss would build correctly.

I can generate a usable interior view. For the trusses I can do a CAD from view & then rotate the trusses (lines) in that view. This will work for my current needs.

Micheal, Great effort to create these Bar joist. I was trying to use them on my current building with a flat roof. Well almost flat. That is the problem I am having, I need to rotate them to 1/4" per foot slope. Is that doable with your method?

Spoke too soon. Again when saved it breaks again when reopened. I turned it over to tech support. Let's see what they have to say.

Thanks, Mick, I see now that the problem looks like the 1st floor but it is a foundation wall issue. That fixed it on my end too. I appreciate your time.

I use a foundation wall, CC block w/ stucco to match the upper floor wall exterior finish thickness. That results in a seamless transition from foundation to 1st floor wall on the exterior. The interior porch foundations walls were chosen to depict the thickened slab shown on the foundation plan view. But are actually stem walls that will not be built that way. Just seems like the porches fight me every time I create one. (every plan) I need to learn the proper, pain free, method.

Opening your plan I see this on the front porch

Mick, You mean drag a SLAB over the floor to create another object, then adjust the Z value to be 1/2" higher than the floor? What wall type (definition) do you use for porches?

Also many times I try to apply tile & the outer edge where the wall defining the porch is the tile is missing.

This is a common thing here in Florida. The porches are 4 to 6" below the main house floor. The structure is a stem wall or monolithic foundation depending on the height of porch above grade. Some have a roof & some do not. When the floor is high enough a railing is added but more often than not the railing needs to be set back away from the edge of the porch. This plan has a room divider defining the porch & a "no room" railing wall do show the raining in the correct place. In plan view, I do not want to show multiple dashed lines for the perimeter of the porch. Issue 1 There is a hole in the stucco by the steps. issue 2 wall type choices for proper room definitions issue 3 railing & column control techniques issue 4 foundations should not step down, only the floor should step down. My question is what wall types & techniques do you folks use to design these concrete porches? I know there are a lot of choices for techniques but what works best for you on concrete porches. Thanks for your time. Gulfport.zip

Thanks Mick I was afraid of that. Not the end of the world though.

How do you turn off the door open direction lines for just those doors in elevation view?

Sorry Mick, I sent the plan in the state I was working out the truss over truss base problem. I should have re-saved it. I'll pay closer attention next time. I certainly appreciate the assistance & time people take to help.

Thanks Eric Yes Mick, I'll be more specific next time but in this case, I thought there were many locations with that problem. You could erase the dimensions and regenerate them to see the same problem. I think the problem stems from a template file not set correctly. I'll find that one & fix it to prevent future problems. Thanks

Support said it can't be done with a truss base.