How are you using the Sharp drawer microwave? I have to manually insert.

[GeneDavis]

The appliance-insert method within the cabinet spec dialog won't give me the 3D result I want.  I'm doing a frameless base, 3/4" sides, 3/4" "separation" and am looking at Sharp's installation instructions that call out an opening of 22 1/8" opening in a 24" wide cabinet.  I have installed these and it's always been in a 24-wide box, with a 22.5" opening width.

 

I tried it and Chief says no, need larger cabinet.  The image here shows what I get when I manually insert the appliance into my 24-wide box.  Exactly the look I want.  It is the KB6524PSY from Chief's Sharp manufacturer catalog.

 

 

But why doesn't it work as appliance insert in the cab spec dialog?

[DBCooper]

It might be because Chief thinks it is too deep.  See this recent post:

 

 

 

[steve_stuart]

I don't get the warning about needing more space, the drawer pops for me. To get the look you want I had to reduce the upper separation to 3/8" but it all seems to work?

[steve_stuart]

[GeneDavis]

Hey @steve_stuart, to paraphrase the Bee Gee's song, "How deep is your cab?"

 

Actually, give us ALL your cab specs.  Framed or frameless, separation, width of cab, height of cab, depth, run from top to bottom of front to give us the top separation, the opening height, the separation under the MW, and the reveals for each of those two separations.  I cannot get it into and opening if I make the opening the size of a garage.

[steve_stuart]

It is a 24" wide x 24" deep base cabinet, framed with 1-1/2" rails and stiles, full overlay doors/drawers with 3/8" reveal, 35-3/4" tall with countertop.

 

I'm not sure the actual opening sizes and separations matter as I am not creating the opening for the micro before I drop it in there. For this example I just dropped a default base cabinet in the plan and then grabbed the Sharp unit out of the library and put it in there. As I mentioned, it left the top separation 1-1/2" wide so I reduced that to 3/8" for an even reveal. Perhaps you are getting the error because you are putting the opening in the unit manually before you put the micro in there?

[steve_stuart]

I have placed the micro unit in a base cabinet manually a number of times (before I discovered the Sharp catalog) but in that case it can't be inserted in the cabinet directly from the library. I had to place it in the plan, rework my base cabinet to create the appropriate opening and then move the micro into place by hand.

[steve_stuart]

Top to bottom when I drop the micro in:

1-1/2" separation, 15-7/8" opening, 1-1/2" separation, 9-5/8" drawer, 1-1/2" separation, 4-1/2" toe kick

 

Top to bottom after I reduce the top separation:

3/8" separation, 15-7/8" opening, 1-1/2" separation, 10-3/4" drawer, 1-1/2" separation, 4-1/2" toe kick

[GeneDavis]

OK I figured out what's up with this.  The appliance from Chief's library is placed in the cabinet's center, in plan view.  Most call this "dropping it in."

 

Done that way, there is no issue with placing it in a 24" wide base.  Here is what Chief does to the 3D appliance, so be aware.  The product has a total height of its front equal to 15 7/8", so if your opening height is that number, the oven will be put into the cab with its correct height.

 

But Chief will put it into a 13" high opening, and also a 17" high opening, shrinking it on its Z axis or stretching it to fit the hole.  

[steve_stuart]

@GeneDavis I can't duplicate that behavior.

 

I place a 24" default base unit in the plan (drawer at the top, door underneath), place the micro in the cabinet center, get 1-1/2" separation, 15-7/8" opening, 1-1/2" separation, 9-5/8" drawer, 1-1/2" separation, 4-1/2" toe kick.

 

I place a 24" default base unit in the plan (drawer at the top, door underneath), modify the front to have a 13" high opening instead of the drawer, change the door below to a drawer, place the micro in the cabinet center, get 1-1/2" separation, 15-7/8" opening, 1-1/2" separation, 9-5/8" drawer, 1-1/2" separation, 4-1/2" toe kick.

 

I changed the door below to an opening, then placed the micro and got the same layout as the other two examples. Changed the entire front of the cabinet to a blank area, placed the micro and got the same layout. Seems like it doesn't matter how the base unit is laid out, dropping the micro into the cabinet center gets me 15-7/8" with a drawer below