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that no one has such a developed BIM solution that it does it all, so interactivity is needed Hmmm, I read BIM to recommend inter-operability NO software can do it all - nor should it - the cost would be prohibitive second, while one user might need collision detection another wouldn't Inter-operability is the KEY to BIM For almost a decade I have been recommending that Chief be sold in modules a Cabinet Chiefer would have no use for the landscaping/terrain features and the reverse is true for a Landscaper Chiefer if Chief wants to stay as a residential or light commercial (emphasis on light) then AEC inter-operable BIM is over-kill but then I look little tiny Sketchup - cost $590 - and they can do AEC BIM so I gotta wonder why Chief can't ??? Lew

maybe this video will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiBUBuGw9y8 and this: http://www.nist.gov/el/upload/Drajko_Collaboration-through-OPEN-BIM.pdf Lew

Ncinus: this is the most basic form of BIM Chief is like "Fortress America" in pre_Pearl Harbor WWII "leave us alone - we don't need you" BIM's main feature - primary feature is inter-operability Chief creates a model - sends it to an energy-calc app the energy info is added to the model and sent back to Chief - possibly with warnings or errors Chief can then make modifications and repeat the process then on to collision-detection for MEP systems then on to structural apps then on to estimating and material list apps then onto to 4D and 5D apps Chief should NOT be an island Lew

In my view Chief Architect is perhaps most BIM of of them all Nicinus: sorry - not sure what you are smoking - but what ??? Lew

Rod: here is some reading material: I think Affinity would be a great companion for Chief If Chief had BIM Sketchup does - but not Chief http://www.trelligence.com/docs/Affinity-SketchUp.pdf play video on this page: http://www.trelligence.com/blog_google.php also watch some these videos: http://www.trelligence.com/affinity_onlinedemos.php IT WOULD BE NICE IF CHIEF WAS ON THIS LIST" http://bimforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/BIM_Tools_Matrix.pdf free BIM webinars like this one: http://www.masoncontractors.org/education/3d-masonry-modeling-using-sketchup-for-the-mason-contractor/ BIM FOR DUMMIES: http://www.vicosoftware.com/vico-office-demos-bim-for-dummies/tabid/306193/Default.aspx Lew

Rod: I'm working off of memory at this point if you had asked back in 2006-2008 I could have posted a list with links etc I did much of that back on the old forum times are very busy for me as I have opened a museum for my family's history on the Niagara Frontier so doing BIM research can only happen in slow moments in the meantime look at what BIM software that Sketchup can use as a good starting point Lew

Ragetoca: I see some rooms that don't have labels are they set to "unspecified" ??? I can't see why that would have an effect - just an observation I agree that simply sub-dividing the space shouldn't change the overall sqft post the plan here so we can "play along" also send it to tech support to see what they say Lew

Once I got it, you don't want to select anything for any reason for fear that a section will jump or screw up walls Yep, now get a client request to move the stairwell over X" the smaller X is the harder the task becomes in my simple brain there needs to be a stairwell "framework" that all the pieces and parts get attached to then that framework can be moved around with ease everything attached would go together as a single unit Lew

I think BIM could be nice for those of you who spec everything in a project Perry: Hmmm, not sure if BIM has much to do with spec'ing a project ??? Maybe it does but at the moment I can't think of a connection ??? BIM is used for costing, energy calcs, structural calcs, collision detection for MEP and even 4D, 5D and 6D software Chief could benefit from 4D and 5D inter-operability not so much for 6D Lew

What it does not do, IMO is in regards to interoperability with other apps Rod: to me this is the "heart" of BIM and like the "Tin Man" Chief has no heart Look at Sketchup - a lowly $500 program - and all the other BIM programs it can share files with some can even be bi-directional ... good luck with your quest but like Dylan I think you are "blowin in the wind" Lew

this is my biggest frustration with CA - too many strange behaviors and missing features that we have to "live with." Robert: well said.... Lew

Rod: I've been asking for "industry" BIM for almost a decade CA doesn't seem to be interested and claims that Chief is already "BIM" I don't think they even come close to understanding what "BIM" is about I've seen very few users on this forum who are interested in the capabilities of "BIM" Lew

Jintu: I do and I still think CA can add a setting in the DBX for "none" see Jim's comments in post #24 and Mickey's in #26 Lew

Joey: None" should be a setting in the floor default dbx and in the the room Dbx for the structure tab that is where the structure can be set if there is one same situation should apply when there isn't one Lew

"auto rebuild foundation" has to be disabled in order to remove the finish flr layer Hmmm, another "conundrum" for CA to "fix" ... Lew

I guess I would like to see in room dbx or floor dbx is a setting for box K next to the "default" checkbox is another checkbox for "none" Lew

still think there should be a setting in the floor defaults dbx to control this since it is part of the floor structure it would be consistent/intuitive to have a setting there Lew

for those who have short memories or not on the forum in 2006 this is what Jeff is referring to: http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?19156-3D-Signage&highlight= Lew

try the free Elefont utility Lew

ok, sleepy eyes found the "room labels" layer to set it was one line out of sight ... never mind Lew

I haven't been using Chief much since ver X4 so I've forgotten where to set the color for the room labels I would like them to show red along with the sqft of the room I would have thought this would be set by the layer display settings for Room - but ??? Tried other places that I could think of - no joy Lew NACC_SUITE 118_141123_0500_LBX6.plan

Perry: still think there should be a setting in the floor defaults dbx to control this since it is part of the floor structure it would be consistent/intuitive to have a setting there Lew

Mickey: you should make a suggestion that there be a setting to control the flooring options Lew

After so marking the file in X5 you can thereafter share the plan file back and forth between X5 and 2014 Home Designer titles However, the HD titles may only view "elements" that used features in Chief Premier that the HD titles don't have - edits would not be possible for those "elements" Lew

I would normally suggest contacting tech support but without a current SSA there would be a fee unless someone has had direct experience with this situation you will probably only get guesses here Lew