robdyck

I've opened some file that originated in X11. The line weights in layout have gone kind of wonky. Anyone else experienced this and if so, is there a solution or is this a bug? Here's a couple of screenshots displaying the difference.

Use control now.

4 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

It was causing too many users too many problems.

That copy-in-place tool was really loved by some, wasn't it? And today seeing this come up again, and the reasoning for that choice just made me chuckle (read: groan and cry).

What else causes too many user problems and should be gotten rid of? Perhaps we should make a list...terrain, roofs, rooms, framing....I could go on!

One simple method...

Create an elevation polyline that is the perimeter of the lot.

Create an elevation polyline that is the perimeter of the structure. Make this elevation polyline 24" higher than the previous one.

13 minutes ago, KReads said:

You forgot the beer.

Totally! Delete this layer...

A wrecking bar, dust mask, goggles, friends, dumpster.

Or you could open the room dialog box and delete the ceiling layer.

8 hours ago, CElder said:

Awesome!  I had no idea that existed!!!  Thanks so much!

As Ryan mentioned, keep in mind that any lines drawn, deleted or edited with that tool will revert back to their original state whenever the view is updated. Use that tool sparingly and only if there is no other method to accomplish what you need.

Is there still no decent way to have separate line settings for pony walls in elevation views? In the year 2020 we can't actually be expected to trace a solid line over the portions of the wall that are above grade (or the inverse)...can we? 

1 hour ago, Joe_Carrick said:

Does it require placing a hole and then manually setting the height of the Symbol?

It would sure be nice if there was another more automatic way to do it.

I can't see any other way. You'll know this of course; a fixture and a polyline hole can't be blocked or converted to symbol. And no options for a symbol to create a hole in a floor.

Not only that, but a hole cuts through everything, including the ceiling layer below.

5 minutes ago, Ridge_Runner said:

Little confusing there, Rob.  I know...typo!

Ahem...I have no idea what your talking about...my post looks fine to me!

@ChiefUserBigRob

I can't replicate this issue. The only thing I can think to check would be "Preferences / General / File Management". Can you post a screenshot of your settings?

12 hours ago, DzinEye said:

Rob, you said: 'paint the wall material with the same material'....  same as what?

The same as whatever it already is, but use a wall covering. I find it more reliable than the paint method.

Just now, Ridge_Runner said:

My first thought. That's usually the first thing I do...go to my All Layers On layerset, make sure all layers are actually on in the ALDO, and then check if they are on a different layer for some reason. It happens sometimes; don't know why.

Good Point. If layers get adjusted while working, one needs to remember to 'save' the newly adjusted 'saved plan view'.

8 minutes ago, parkwest said:

Thanks Rob.  I will try that.

Easy with that like button...see if it works first!

It's not something simple like more than one file of the same name? You've got a really logical filing system? And I assume you re-open the files using the 'open recent files' option?

Post your plan and I'll poke around as well to see if I can replicate it.

44 minutes ago, ChiefUserBigRob said:

they aren't pissed or anything but it makes me look inferior.

Well, you must be. After all, you don't know what's going on there, do ya?! Maybe not inferior, but definitely incompetent! (totally kidding)

Just had something similar happen with piles under a grade beam...somewhere between completing the foundation plan, and a section view, some of them moved. Yup, it doesn't feel good.

2 minutes ago, parkwest said:

I don't know why the triangle walls insisted on creeping into the roof area.... but problem is solved for me... for now.

It's not sunlight leaking or wall layers, it's just some weirdness. The easiest fix...paint the wall material with the same material (just so it doesn't reference the default).. Sounds weird but it usually works.

Or add a wall covering of the same material.

Open the default settings for exterior or interior doors, hardware tab, post a screenshot. Or... just change the hardware while you've got that open!

@stager386 You're welcome!

1 hour ago, stager386 said:

Thoughts?

Here'a a fence panel / column combo. Painted, precast concrete. You're on your own for the concrete pilings for the columns! Fence, Concrete.calibz

@Alaskan_Son That's a really good point. It takes a bit of an adjustment to mentally grab hold of some of the new functions and make them a regular part of your workflow. Great reminder to delve into the custom schedule capabilities and set some stuff up!

18 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

You can pretty much add anything to the Room Info Box

Yeah, I hear you.  I just needed to turn on that polyline layer in my main floor plan instead of just in my site plan in order for it to execute properly (this project didn't need a site plan).

Chiefs auto labels would suffice, I just didn't have my defaults for a simple garage plan setup to calc different areas for spaces like a lean-to parking area that aren't part of the 'building area'. Everything was setup really nice for it to be quick and easy, and then the whole project got quite customized which pretty much screwed all the auto stuff I had setup.

If I'd known it would morph like that when I started, I would've used a different plan template...and I would've priced it differently!

8 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

wouldn't the Auto Area Label in the Default Room Label or a Text box with some of Chief Standard Macros suffice

That's a good question. For this plan, it started off as a simple 3-car detached garage, then morphed into a a 4car garage made up of 3 separate bays, some heated, some unheated, some finished, some unfinished, and a covered lean-to parking area.

15 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

Completely depends on that macro, how it is written, whether or not it references any other global variables, whether or not those global variables are set by a macro included in that particular view, etc.

It doesn't reference any global variables, however it does reference a polyline that is part of a site plan layer set, and is not displayed in that main floor plan view.

So, just trying to understand this...when I open the 'main floor plan' view, the macro is not executed until I also open the 'site plan' view which contains the polyline and macro.

A little context:

This is for my garage and shop plans which are all setup to auto-execute as much as possible because of the general simplicity of the structure type and likewise, the construction documents. Obviously, I don't want to calculate the building area, I want it to display automatically. And...I didn't want to (at least not yet) change the default for "Garage" rooms to be included in the Living Area calculation, so I was using a polyline macro that you setup for me (which works great BTW and has saved me plenty o' time).

For this case, the solution seems to be 1 of 2 options: Correct me if I'm wrong with these assumptions

1. Change my default for "Garage" rooms to include in the Living Area and use the Living Area macro OR

2. Place the polyline I'm currently using on the final main floor plan view, and adjust it's line type and drawing order so it doesn't affect my desired display. 

Any thoughts?

This could of course lead to a suggestion for Chief to enable multiple groupings in the room dbx for area calculations.