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I would also like this. In the meantime, I take cross sections, and dimension them to the plate, top of fascia, top of heel, and ridge

did the as built app give you all those nice round numbers?

there are a couple threads on different technology and include discussions of it. I think valleyguy has the most accurate & efficient workflow. He uses the app to create the floor plan and then uses a laser to measure things and marks them down in an ipad app. I tested it on a few houses early on. It cant be used blindly on the examples I tried it on. The question you are left with is what walls do I have to change to make it accurate? I ama considering using it for floors not of interest. As with many of these apps, they measure the walls, and then try and line up common walls to form rooms and stich them together. And when the walls do not line up, the software makes decisions in order to make them line up. The problem is you don't know what decisions it made, and if they were correct. For the $1200 for the pro, i'm starting to think a cheaper lidar point cloud scanner is the better option @ 5k or less and not have to wonder which walls might be out

Thats why I like to go to site ...the robots are not here yet

that of course begs the question, cant it go watch the training videos and read the doc :o) ..and of course read all the posts here for all the workarounds... or is it pattern based training, like here MR AI is a picture of the floor plan, and here is the corresponding plan in CA I created. repeat for 100. ...but I think that might be more difficult...as it still would not "know" how to create it. in watching the revit AI video from the point cloud, my guess is that is what they did, as it still does not do it all in the output that I saw ..or maybe it is both...

thats what i do today, but it is all manual work. A simple house can be done in a couple hours. but why not have AI do it, and go do something else for a few hours. Compared to what you are doing in the video, which is instruction after instruction, based on what you want, telling it to generate a model from an image would be more deterministic ( i shouldn't have to tell it anything after the initial instruction). Maybe harder for AI, but if it sat there all day trying different things until it got it right (assuming it didnt start using roof planes for slabs) then I can go do something else. I saw a demo of a company trying to turn point clouds into revit models yesterday, but that is a different approach. The approach in your video at the start is the push button approach, which interestingly may work better, who knows. It certainly piqued my interest

what did you give it to create the initial floor plan? and the floor plan is in CA?

i had the same question you had at the end...why is it using dialog boxes, vs directly doing things. ...looks like the answer is only certain things are available to it as a tool from the MCP server. What would be interesting is if one gave it an image of a floor plan and elevations, could one tell it to build the house in CA, go mow the lawn, go get groceries, come back 5 hours later and it would be done?

interesting, what do you measure for the site plan? For me, I have no idea where the property lines are when I am onsite, so there is not a lot to measure per se. I just take pictures of the building in order to try and create representative elevations. the one thing I might measure is the main floor to grade, front and back to get the terrain accurate for the elevations. Occasionally I will take a laser and measure elevation changes between certain points if for instance they are putting in a new garage on a sloped terrain

interesting thats a lot, today I take a video, but that even misses things, and well I cannot measure from it. Curious, have you looked at handheld scanners (no tripod to setup) which produce both point clouds and 3DGS, and/or 3DGS only cameras (which are also measurable). And if so, what got you to the LX1 vs a scanner or a 3DGS camera? example 3DGS XGRIDS LCC the measurement is nice as it shows you how far off the axis you are

that is surprising. even lower end commerical grade scanners are only accurate to +-0.75 inch. higher end to 1/8" I think I have convinced myself to go the SLAM (mobile) scanner route, just for the fact that if I missed something, like dropped beam, or stairs proud of a wall, I can go back to the point cloud and measure. Plus, they all seem to have actual cameras on them, so you also get a 3d model which actually look like the interior (similar to matterport). and they can do exterior so I could definitively know building height for instance. one time HW cost, no subscriptions, you own the data, can measure everything from the desktop. ...or at least I've convinced myself. most scanner vendor software can give you a floorplan (or alternatively trace the walls) The only question left is which one to buy. I'm currently in price creep mode

have you checked their dims against a laser...how close

They put out a demo video. But when they scan the second room and are measuring the last wall (which is a common wall to the first room), it draws that wall about 1 foot into the original room(erroneously) So I assume their measurements from the second room do not "Add up", and now either the program adjusted the length of the walls, or the user did and it just didnt show on the video.The biggest issue I have with corrections, is "which wall did they change, and how do they know it is the right one to change". My guess by watching this video is they just corrected the last wall scanned before the common wall, by the amount the common wall is out by. i.e. because it was out by a foot, they shortened the wall measured perpendicular to it by a foot HAve you seen this behaviour so far in your testing? Have you verified it against a laser? I'm in decision paralysis. Now I'm looking at SLAM scanners, about 6K, but you get a point cloud supposedly good to 0.5 inch, and you can walk and scan and be done in like 5 minutes. ...and it does exteriors. no subscriptions, one time HW cost only. looks like it picks up everything good enough to dimension windows, doors are tougher(almost have to measure the casing onsite and then dimension casing to casing)

hmmm...I havent remembered an issue with stepped foundations with the terrain on the foundation level. The more common case here are main floor cantilevers, especially for fireplaces. Terrain on the foundation level then means never having to think about filling in the cant hole I think there have been multiple suggestions around this whole issue, and one of them seemed to pique CA's interest (I think it was the suggestion to be able to edit the terrain on any level). So maybe the tradeoffs of using one way vs the other will all go away in X19 (one can always hope!)

...this is the reason i and others put the terrain on the foundation level

edit all areas, select scope, copy, paste to new plan...or if it is just the cabinets and fixtures, select them using ctrl key copy paste to new plan. or you can select with selection box

you probably need to post a screenshot or screen recording

i've noticed here its a bit of a standard practice for realtors to use iguide or matterport. Alberta real estate regulatory body has some rules for when floor space is included (over 5ft ceiling I think), so Iguide sells that feature constantly. I dont think I have not seen a listing with a iguide or matterport( in the pst 5 years), which means they are not created from blueprints. There is a website "honest door" which you can see some of the info realtors see for free. sometimes you can see the floorplan for recently sold listings. you can pay a fee to get a package which I assume is all of the pictures (and if the realtor did a floor plan, the floor plan) of any sold house. So I think, if something was sold in the last 15 years, there is a good chance the floor plan by iguide or matteprort is on the MLS.

yes it certainly is interesting, and odd...there would be nothing to nail the window to above the bottom plate

its more for picking up things I missed, and would not be on the CA app, for instance if the stairs are proud of the wall, or if I missed a dropped beam. or even to double check a CA window size. So more like something like this point clouds can be viewed in point cloud viewers and then in that software you can measure between 2 points. It looks like you are capturing the window widths and distance to wall with a laser. CA captures that in the app. Are you capturing that "just in case"? ...this is my conundrum with the app: how much do I still take by laser that it actually captures? door widths, window WXH, location of both of those, plus all the room dimensions? The realtor plans never have the windows/doors, which is why the CA app was promising. Here is perhaps a question for you. If you had the realtor plan ahead of time, would you put that onto your tablet ahead of time, and just jot down measurements on it as you go around with the laser, or would you use the CA app?

thanks for taking a look. you are correct, it was picking off the top to corner of the framing. Which means then the framing member is not parallel to the window. So I did a CAD detail from view, and sure enough it is off. -44.76 is the angle of the framing member, where the window line is -45 that is what the 1.4142135 multiplier I have comes from, sq rt of 2 (i.e. for a 12:12 pitch, SQRT (sq(1)+sq(1)) =SQRT(2). so in your example, if one wanted to get it "right" per se, where the RO is per the angles on the right and left, and on the bottom, shouldnt it be if you wanted for an RO of say 10 inches on the each side: for the height SQRT(10^2+10^2)+10 =24.142 which is SQRT(2)*10+10 and for the width SQRT(10^2+10^2) + SQRT(10^2+10^2)=28.284 which is SQRT(2)*10*2 ? It also doesnt always look like it rebuilds the framing when making small changes to the RO and then it decided to frame a box when i put it down to 2". any ideas on why that is? but back to your plan, is your framing member at 45deg? attached is the plan with an extra 35 on the width and it tells me in the dialog, the RO width is 179, but in the elevation it is only ~164 triangle window.plan

i deleted the window and readded, and now it is closer still odd that it is outby 5/16. and the bottom has a tiny gap instead of same gap. must have something to do with the pitch,but the multiple by 1.41 doesnt seem to work....

does it on a stock plan, just not as bad In my plan,, I changed the RO to be the actual adjusted value vs say 1 in, as 1 inch is on the angle. 1" on the horiz would be 1.4" and then for the vertical, it would be 1.41 at the top and 1 at the bottom. but that clearly didnt work. I tried it on a stock plan and it actually comes pretty close, so not sure what is going on with my plan although it does not reflect 10" for some reason, 8 at the bottom 11 on the sides so not exactly sure what it is doing

Customer wants windows at walls edge and wants to see how much space is between truss and window to figure out framing and casing sizes. below the truss will require a minimum of one plate I cant get the wall framing detail to show the window, but a regular elevation can. The truss is 12:12, but when I dimension the framing it is not 1:2 ratio height to width(which it should be for 12:12)...and you can also see the framing skew (not parallel to truss). Its also not framing below the truss(it is framing the wall to the underside of the roof. Anyone know how to force the framing to the underside of the truss (I suppose I can move it, but not ideal) I'm using a tudor arch with 0 deg to create the window. I originally just tried adjust heights in left and right, but CA would not allow a zero and forced a 1/4". Anyone know a solution to at least the first problem (framing not observing RO and not observing angle of window)?

i'm debating getting a used ipad. what you do is not feasible on the phone ....although I could probably capture it on the phone and then send to my tablet (which i paid $200 open box 5 years ago vs current price for a used 5 year old IPAD pro at $700...not my favorite thing to support apple) Are you using the 13" screen? I would still like something that also gave a point cloud as a backup in case I have to measure something...