GeneDavis

And if this is your absolute need, gotta have it, write it up in the Suggestions section. For me, the sloped sections would be drawn like the way we draw roof planes. The image shown here is of a 22 x 22 2-car garage, sloped the way one of my builder clients does it. His flatwork sub places screeds to get it right.

Garage floor slopes are typically more complex, with hips and valleys. I just draw the lines and annotate. No one has ever asked for 3D realism in something so subtle.

If you just absolutely must have it for 3D realism and the customer is paying for it, draw the 4" slab and put a 3D solid wedge atop, 2.5" to zero.

Well, there's a nice outside-the-box solution. i like it!

Or do it with 3D solids, exploded, so you can wood-grain texture the faces appropriately.

I can't find it.

I needed one so modeled it in SU and did the import/make to achieve a light fixture. So here is a plan with the one I used in a plan (for hanging from a 3:12 vaulted ceiling, and one that is level. The level one is "raw," in that it needs editing to add lights and do textures. The one with the pitched canopy/transformer housing is set up with an array of 3/8 dia. point lights inside the LED light cavity. The cavity has a 1/16 thick lens I textured as Lighting White with 100 percent transparency, which one might want to tweak a little. Wac Volo Linear LED Pendants.plan

Dave's not here.

I don't know how and need guidance. I made a corner shelf in a shower using the slab tool, and cannot figure how to address my situation, which is one texture on the edge, and another on the top. Two different. I converted it into a 3D solid and that did not help. I want the same 3x6 subway tile on both these faces, and know I have to make a version for each to handle direction and origin.

I'm a fan of these, because they light a dining table so nicely, and are relatively inexpensive. If you gotta do a $6,500 chandelier over the dining table in that big vaulted space, do so, but I prefer enough can lights for general lighting, always dimmable, and one of these for each two table settings. Modeled in Sketchup and imported and lit with 4 little point lights right up against where the LEDs are in the real ones, this one is modeled after one of the better products available from Amazon.com. 14" h. x 4" dia., matte dark gray. Table lamp rechargeable.plan

My problem stems from too much focus on 3D realism. Can lights in Chief ceilings appear as paste-on disks, and don't give us a good representation of one when there is a recessed lens, with cone or baffle. I made a symbol for a WAC recessed can light, a model that has a rotating lamp to work with pitched ceilings up to 20 degrees, and rotated the lamp 14 degrees to be right for my 3:12 pitch. Without a hole, the light has the ceiling cutting through it, and does not look correct. I'll live with it and forego any try for a workaround, but will log a suggestion that flush can recessed ceiling lights need to be able to cut holes in ceilings.

But I don't want holes in the roof. Only the ceiling.

How does one do this subtraction? There is no ceiling plane per se. The room is specified as the roof structure "being" the ceiling, as is common for vaulted roofs with finish applied directly to rafters.

The room is under a roof framed with 16" i-joists. I want to cut some 4" dia. holes, and placed a CAD circle, but it won't convert to ceiling hole.

Use the room dividers and put them on a layer you can turn off. Room def defines ceiling structure.

Floor structure is a room setting not a joist setting. You don't edit the joists for height. You edit the floor structure of the room. With autoframing on, Chief will change the joists from whatever to your new whatever height. What was it, 9.5 but needing 11.875.

Ryan said it and I said it way upthread. It's not done in Chief. You rotate in your printing program. Here is an image of a page of a print set. The page orientation is landscape, but as can be seen, I rotated it in Adobe for printing in portrait mode.

I ended up doing the smoothing angle thing, doing a regen of the CAD block, then SAVING not just closing. Thanks, all.

A pedestal sink in the Chief Kohler manufacturer library has incorrect 3D, so I got a good one from Kohler and inserted it. The generated 2D CAD block is inadequate for 2D plan view, so I opened it in CAD Block management. The images below show the plan view with the auto-generated CAD block that doesn't pick up the lines from Kohler's 3D, a 3D view, how the block looks in the dialog box, and how it looks after I edited it in CAD. Why are my edits not taking?

Thanks, Brett. That did it.

Base molding in a bathroom, and I want to delete the run across the shower wall. Should I have manually drawn the molding instead of doing it in room spec?

Did you build your layout page? If not, you will need to do that. There are no already-built layout pages for portrait oriented sheets. You can scratch-build your layout page with borders, titles, revision lists, page number, date, all that stuff, or you can take one of the prebuilt templates and rotate it, borders and all, and then edit from there. Is the plan fully annotated for sending views to layout? Rotating a plan is easy. Edit>Edit Area>Edit Area (All Floors) will do what you want, but if you are fully annotated, there is gonna be a lot of editing to rotate all the text and other anno elements that need it.

If we want program-generated pitch labels, someone ought to think it through carefully and describe how it might be used in producing con-doc layout views, and then write it up as a suggestion. Is it a triangle or an ell? There are votes for each way. How high up from the roof plane? Is it text-filled or not? Certainly not wanting to see it on every single plane of a complex roof arrangement, how do we deselect the planes for which we want to turn off the feature? And remember, you are in elevation view when you make that judgement, and you cannot select a plane whose baseline is normal to the viewing plane. You are gonna need to make that selection in a 3D view or a plan view, so you will want to split the screen. Or do we want to activate this new anno tool in 2D section or elevation and have Chief auto annotate any angled line in the view, so we can simply click those few places we want a pitch label. Does it need to work in a live view and a plot lines view? I know this thread is not about whether to use pitch labels in elevations or sections, or when and how much to use them, but I offer here, just for discussion, an example from Chief of a house with a complex multi pitch roof with very spare use of pitch marks in the elevations. Take a look. I have only shown images of the sheets with the exterior elevations, but if you look close at this, a house with about 20 roof planes, only 4 are labeled. But in the full file, which you can go and open and examine, there is a roof plan in which every plane is auto labeled and section views of everything with pitch triangle labels in those structural section views, all to guide the truss builder. There are different pitches. As I asked upthread, who is it that needs this information? Has a client ever asked you to change a pitch to a specific number other than maybe a 12? If a client needs to see the numbers, do they want it on every single plane in those elevation views? I don't bother with them anymore in elevation views, but do put them in the section views that are needed for roof cutters and truss designers. And I am certainly in favor of a tool which can automate that. It's a nice challenge for the Chief coders.

You want to rotate your layout so it can print on roll paper 36" wide? Or do you want a drawing that READS in portrait mode? Please clarify. Because if it is the first, it is done at the printer, not in Chief.

The pics are of what you did? Looks like you have it solved.