Joe_Carrick

Hue, Saturation, Value is a system used in print media vs computer monitors.

Curt, Have you tried using a "Custom Doorway" symbol and then placing the Door in that Doorway? That might work better for you but you might have to have several such Doorway Symbols.

It's apparent that with many of the "New Features" that CA implements: 1. There's an incomplete specification of what it should do and/or not do. 2. Once implemented it takes a long time (2-5 release cycles) to get it fixed. As an example, the "Projection Windows" feature in X6 has the following shortcomings: a. "Frames" do not show inside the opening as they do with other Window Types. b. "Casings, Lintels, Sills and Aprons" default to a gray color and are not available for editing in the Materials Tab of the Window dbx. They can be "painted" but that has to be done for each such Window. c. If the Symbol dbx indicates that "System Supplies Casings" they should only be defaulted for ":Interior Casings", etc. Generally Projection Windows would not have Casings, Sills, Lintels or Aprons on the Exterior because the Projection Window is normally applied to the Exterior Wall Surface. Currently it defaults to both Interior and Exterior. During the X6 Beta I reported these things but so far they haven't been fixed. Hopefully they will be fixed in the next patch - otherwise, the feature is less than it should be and its' use will require additional work-around(s).

In addition, I was feeling like some posts were a bit too "persnickity" and consequently the thread had deteriorated beyond being of value. I will usually delete a thread that I was the OP if it gets completely off target or becomes a "P*******g" contest. IOW, I reserve the right to use the "moderation" options.

Curt, I did in fact delete it because it had become confused. Many responses were about differences between what a color looks like on the monitor vs a paint chip. The question I had was about the BEHR Library not containing all the BEHR colors. The entire "N" series of colors is missing for example.

Hi Perry, That works, but it presents a few problems with labels and schedules, not to mention the hassle with changing the sash sizes, etc. It would really be nice if the "swing side" tool worked with "Sliding Glass Doors" instead of just reversing the slide direction. It seems like CA intentionally programmed it to just reverse the slide direction instead of changing the "in/out" direction.

Alan, You might be able to do it with a CAD line (arc) consisting of a repeated capitol S. Not perfect, but it's an idea. It would really be better if we could define linestyles that included segments that were 2D rather than just linear.

Most of the Sliding Glass Doors that I use are not recessed into the wall. They are Vinyl Frame and are installed like windows. It seems that Chief's Sliding Glass Doors are inset to the interior face of the wall similarly to a swinging door. IOW, in perspective views they are not flush with the exterior wall surface. IMO, this is wrong - at least when vinyl or aluminum frame doors are being used. Shouldn't there be an option to make this appear correct in 3D?

Thanks guys, I kept looking in the Walls section of defaults.

No, but it's been raining for the last 3-1/2 days. I did get in a round with Scott on Thursday afternoon during a "sucker hole" but otherwise I've been cooped up waiting for the sun to return.

I will make custom garage doors - aluminum frame glass panel, etc - to your specs for a very reasonable fee [ $15.00 ]. You specify the width, height, frame and panel appearance - satisfaction guaranteed.

I can confirm that the Labels don't show when the door is in a railing wall. IMO this is a bug in the program.

I have a Plan that whenever I place a Wall Material Region I get a Default Exterior Wall applied and I then have to go and modify that to be a single thickness material. Is there a place to set what the material is used? I can't find it anyplace in defaults and I really don't want a "double wall". I'm also having some trouble getting the Wall Material to snap to the edge (top/bottom/side) of the wall when editing it. I don't remember these problems in Beta - are they a result of the patch?

Lisa, You would be better of just defining "frameless" cabinets within Chief's cabinete dbx and saving them in your user library. That's the only way you will get all the editing capabilities that Chief's Cabinet dbx provides. IOW, you will be able to specify doors, drawers, openings, finishes, shelves, etc. Any IKEA cabinet symbols imported into Chief would not be parametrically editable and you wouldn't be able to change door styles, etc. OTOH, if there was a Library of IKEA cabinet doors and drawer fronts - you could simply use Chief's Cabinets (frameless) and apply those door and drawer symbols. Setting that up in a Plan Template would be quite usefull.

You've come up against one of the shortcomings of Chief's Symbol Import. The problem is that Chief creates cabinets parametrically from the data supplied in the cabinet dbx - it's an internally programmed cabinet that CA refers to as a "Native Object". Importing a cabinet as a symbol is not much more than you would get importing it as a piece of furniture. The only real differences are that you can put a countertop on it, insert a sink into the top - and it will be on the cabinets layer. There is a way to create Cabinet Symbols using "Primitive 3D Faces" for the openings, etc. I've done it but after several less that 100% successful results I decided it wasn't worth the effort. Each opening has to be a 3D Face of a different color and as I recall you name them "Drawer1, Drawer2, Door1, etc. IAE, it's a PITA so I said "forget it" and moved on.

Yep Yep.... I am thinking a "Window Symbol" and using "Fixed". One problem that I have with that however is that if you set all the Sash values to "0" then the glass disappears in 3D.

Hmmm..... Seems like I answered that one myself a couple of years back - senior moment !!!! OTOH, someone suggested a thick door

My Glass Block Windows all show as a thin sheet of glass in 3D. How do I get them to be 6" thick?

There are som cases that I've encountered where the materials tab doesn't list a particular element to modify. Sometimes this is because the Plan was migrated from a prior version that didn't include that element. In other cases it's something that CA simply missed in the software. IAE, I find that careful use of the Material Painter can take care of the problem. But be careful and make sure you uncheck Blend Colors with Materials so that you don't get a mess.

Of course that was it. One of the monitors was turned off. That's where the extra window was.

Does that mean I can go to Scott's posts and vote them down? COOL

Glenn, Did you try it on a Floor Material Region - recessed?

It must be some strange calculation. Scott has 31 Posts and 6 Reputation Points Michael has 30 Posts and only 2 Reputation Points I have just 16 Posts and 2 Reputation Points Would someone please explain this? Maybe DJP can devine it

I selected a Material Region to Edit - Then Selected EDIT When I subsequently selected Plan Material Chief hung up - nothing was selectable. ESC got me out but if I tried to open another window such as Chieftalk before hitting ESC then I couldn't do anything and had to use Task Manager to close Chief. See the attached pic. It just seems like a total "disable" of the window. Maybe there was an underlying window that I couldn't see.

What are Reputation Points ? Are they good or bad? Scott has 6 and I only have 2 - maybe it's a new Golf Handicap System. OTOH, maybe it's a grade for how verbose you are