stevenyhof

Hello,

Hoping one of you guru's out there can help me.

I added the roof returns to a number of gables and it all worked perfectly - a week or so ago.

Now I am completing the plans and see the my front porch gable roof return is missing on the right side.

I removed it and tried again, but no go. I tried on the porch wall and the attic wall - both add the return to the left side but not the right.

I even mirrored/copied the roof from the left to the right and that did not work.

I know it is something I may have done - because that has proven over and over, but cannot find any issues.

Thoughts?

I wish they would increase the size a file can be... 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zSLeZLDIRSsZWin7R1bfHL-OOxYNFiQZ/view?usp=sharing

Thank you,

Steve

2 minutes ago, ChiefUserBigRob said:

THIS^^^^^^^

Yes, I am now paying more attention to this for sure. Thank you

Not in there. My template is in another folder I set up, but it is not there either. I opened up my template and that is blank. 

1 minute ago, rgardner said:

If you had a layout opened that was not saved to that file you might open up your template layout and see if there is an autosaved copy there.  Might be able to recover it.  But it's good practice that as soon as you start a layout to save as to the right file location.

 

Nothing in my template folder - it typically saves to the same folder as my .plan file.

Now I am seeing the layout file in the Archives. I wonder why my other previous work was not there.

I guess I would like to ask what the Save button does - or Ctrl+S ??? I use Ctrl+S all the time. If I am in the layout, does Ctrl+S do anything?

As soon as I placed my first elevation into the layout, the name changed from untitled to the clients name and shows up in the Browser. Seems to me that it should be saved.

I guess it is not my day. So I was working on the next job and putting things together on the layout. I have all my elevations, and my floor plan in place. I was working on a cross section and just completed it. I saved it into the Browser with Save Active View, and it went in there, and took a break.

When I came back, I was messing with my printer and accidentally hit the power button to the whole system. After I rebooted I went back into the job and my section was gone and in fact there is no layout. I checked the Archives and there was an older copy - no layout exists.

So, now I am a bit gun shy. I had my autosave set to 5 minutes, but how often does the archives save a backup? And, does the system save the layout in the same place or somewhere else? Again, I am starting over and putting things back into a new layout.

So I redrew my sections - saved them before I moved them to layout. They all show up in the Browser. I saved the plan, closed it and opened it - all still there  Hope that doesn't happen again.

4 minutes ago, robdyck said:

In exactly what type of view are you adding lines, details and notes?

Section - It saves in the Cross Sections as Cross Sections 1, etc. next to my elevations

9 minutes ago, robdyck said:

it is automatically saved, no action required. It would appear in the project browser.

It was there

This time I'm using "Save Active View" on my sections. But they were all there. I did just find out that hitting Cntr+S does not save the section into the Project Browser.

I put them together and on the layout - so did not need to go into the Project Browser to open them.

I added my section lines, added my details to the sections, and placed them into the layout. I save often and I updated a few times when I made some updates to the sections.

Now the section lines are gone, the sections are still in the layout - with no notation. 

And the sections do not exist in the Project Browser.

So I just completed a plan - spent about 3 hours putting my notes and things on 5 sections. The client wanted a few changes so I opened the plan and see that I have no sections. I looked at my archives - nope! - I have is saving every 2 minutes. Is there hope are does this happen and I just have to get to work again?

On 10/10/2020 at 3:50 PM, DzinEye said:

Definitely going from AD to Chief I was immediately confounded by the time-suck of having to select materials and colors before it would even be on my radar in AD.  I just use colors and materials as I decide along with a healthy dose of client-expectation management to get past the materials/colors divide. 

Agree completely! 

I'm now seeing that making up more names is better.

I have used Brite for my trim and on the plan I'm working on I named the wall color Brite. So now when I change the walls, it is also changing all my trim.

But I get it! And I like it

Thank you

1 hour ago, robdyck said:

Simply change the color of your drywall material. Example: My typical drywall color is very neutral, but my client wants the interior walls painted a different color, specifically Benjamin Moore AF-10 - Gardenia. With the Library Browser open (off to the side), search and find that color. Then using the Adjust Material Definition tool, select your drywall material, and then use the color eyedropper to grab the color from your library browser. See the video below for an example.

Very nice! And I am assuming that you have more than one wall type in the plan - yes? Well, you would - there is exterior and interior walls - Thank you

2 minutes ago, joey_martin said:

but I would add a 1/8" color layer to the interior wall.

I see. That is an interesting idea.
I have set up defaults for what I think is nice common colors - more traditional and craftsman as that is more of what I do. But lately people are wanting modern and modern farmhouse which is kind of forcing me to offer colors and materials that make more sense with those designs.
Thank you Joey! 

2 minutes ago, joey_martin said:

That tool is a no go!

Got it! Running away!!!

And thoughts on how you address this issue?

7 hours ago, DzinEye said:

Would Style Palettes do what you want?  I haven't used them, so I'm not sure, but you might look into it.

I will look into this. I also have not checked this out.

7 hours ago, DzinEye said:

If not you could create copy's of your wall types which use the alternate materials and then quickly change wall types using the Select Similar tool.

I have thought of this - and I may. I dislike duplicating things that may require further changes - then I would have two to mess with. But I do believe this would work well.

And maybe part of how I offer my services will need to fall into, let me get my design done first, and then I can use the eyedropper to paint whole floors/plans,etc.

As I still learn, I am finding that colors are very meaningful to clients, and can get lost in time with them, but I believe I can set a policy to take advantage of the 3D model and colors for those who are will to pay for that specific service above the normal plan documents. At the moment I am paying attention to how this is working and deciding how I would approach this. I don't want to leave money on the table - so-to-speak.

Thank you Mark!

Steve

I'm trying to understand the materials for walls.

1. I spent some time going through all my default walls in the Default Settings, making sure I set all my materials for my interior and exterior wall materials to default (checked default and see default noted in the materials tab.)
2. I also went through my library one wall at a time to make sure all settings matched and set to default - especially for my interior and exterior materials.
3. Then I created a New drawing and added some walls to see all my settings were working correctly - which they were. I had both exterior and interior walls drawn and added some walls from my library and all those walls also checked out good. Siding and wall colors/details were what I set up in my template. Nice! 
4. Ok, I thought I would go into the Defaults on the New drawing and change my interior wall color. Nothing changed. Ok, so while floor heights, joist, etc. all seem to change things in the current plan, wall material changes do nothing to existing walls. Is this correct?
5. So if I have 6 different wall types in the drawing and I want to change the color of the wall, do I need to open each one and change the color in Wall Types? I do see that I can control these walls form the Define Wall Types... dbx. I would just have to know what walls are in the drawing. And this does change the walls - so this works.
6. I know I can use the Material Eyedropper but that causes other issues when I want to change things in the Define walls area - and the reason I went back to make sure everything is set to defaults. Taking me some times to wrap my head around how these defaults work.
7. So it seems to me that if all my walls, set up in Defaults Settings (each wall type) AND in my Library, that changing the Materials in the Default Settings should change all the walls in the plan if all the walls in the plan are set up to use the default materials.
8. Maybe I am missing something, but if I have a client that want to see vertical siding vs horizontal, or one overall color for the interior walls, that I would not have to change all the different wall types added into the plan one by one. 
9. How do others address this issue?

Thank you,

Steve

4 minutes ago, solver said:

 

The split was just a little below, I think. Material regions are also better than p-solids as they replace the materials.

 

I deleted and redrew the porch roof and changed the wall polyline for the wall the roof butts into.

 

 

 

 

310642828_SND1854PotterBarn (eric).zip

Thank you Sir!

Actually in this case, the attic wall split at the trim board so just changed the material. I've done some strange things with gable materials so was just not thinking - that was much faster. But I will mess with pony walls also.

1 minute ago, solver said:

Make that wall a Pony Wall

 

I use pony walls for my foundation and some brick/stone walls on the main floor, but did not know I could use them in the attic. I will make it happen! Thank you

1 minute ago, solver said:

Those are really buggy and seem to eventually get correct. If you pull the porch roof back several feet, the main roof will fix itself.

 

And why do you have a p-solid here?

 

Thank you - I did not think the other roof would do this, but I will remember that.