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5 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:
Which is, to me, the most important question, and almost impossible to answer without throwing down the cash to find out. I had an older dual Xeon machine that would chug through Ray Traces, which is what it was designed for, but was pretty slow through most of Chief's operations day to day. I upgraded to my current rig and it was way, way, faster but don't know where to go for an upgrade from here.
I agree. My son keeps showing me gaming setups, and I keep coming back to him with, ok, thats nice, but will it speed up CA's typical CAD operations within the drawing. He does not know the answer to that. I have done some research on CAD setups, but not enough to know what I would be talking about.
Chief has their recommendations and requirements, but it would be nice if Chief developers would chime into some of this and say, well, if you don't mind spending some extra dollars, we would highly recommend this because it helps with, X, Y and Z, etc.
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17 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:
Despite Larry's issue with Cloning (BAD SSD) I use and recommend Macrium Reflect , even the free version will work for Cloning and running backup Images.
I've never done this. Makes me nervous moving my operating system. For now I am thinking of reinstalling CA on the new drive and set up my paths. Leave the C: as is. I know my son wants me to move everything to the new drive so I will cross that road when they show up. I just cannot afford to be down for long.
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15 hours ago, Kbird1 said:
Even the 12th Gen is only 16% overall better apparently, though CA is Single Core Coded and the difference there is 33%,
I see some gamers raving about them, but if you have a recent computer I think most are fine....
the extra cost for i9 Chips is usually not worth it unless almost the same price which is not usually the case.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-12700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10700K/4119vs4070
M.
Thank you. I'm assuming adding my Undo and Temp, and perhaps all of CA onto the NVME is a good start.
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4 hours ago, Kbird1 said:
I would tend to agree with this and would go Z690 and a 12th gen 12700K or higher (budget?) ( or KF) if a CPU and MoBo are in the Cards, this is likely the closest for a while to a "real change" in hardware but not one that is needed likely for another year or two. I tend to trade back and forwards with Asus and Gigabyte boards , one other feature to look for is dual Bios's in case there is an issue.
As Larry also pointed out the Z400 series boards are PCIe3 only but can use a 11700k CPU , a Z590 also can do 11700 but has PCIE 4 for both Video cards ( no real benefit ) and the extra 4 PCIe lanes for the NVME and often have 2 or 3 NMVE slots.
Mick.
Great info. I will bookmark this thread for future upgrade advise.
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5 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:
Same experience here. Didn't stop me from thinking that a new hard drive would be noticeably faster but sometimes I just like new stuff.
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2 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:
Not quite. You would need a new motherboard to support the faster Gen 4.0 PCIe protocol. That 4.0 will get you the faster NVMe M.2 PCIe speeds that Mick mentioned above. But they're working on Gen 5 now so...
Very good. Thank you Larry. I work along just fine now with only a few jobs that cause lag, and I have done very little to make my own materials so I am going to leave things as they are now and wait for some real change in hardware before I upgrade. No reason to spend money on such little gain with new things coming around the corner.
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3 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:
Steve, this post is incorrect! I was curious why ASUS didn't simply list the PCIe generation in the marketing info but if you click on tech specs you'll see that the motherboard only support gen 3 PCIe speeds. They do note some kind of 4x PCIe info but it's only gen 3 PCIe.
EDIT*: Ah! So I would need to upgrade "*to a new motherboard" anyway to support the new CPU.
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3 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:
Here's a comparison between the 10700K and 11900K.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-11900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10700K/4110vs4070
Very interesting. While it is faster, the difference is so little, I may need to hold off for a time. Thank you!!
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31 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:
New gear is always fun but don't expect huge gains from any upgrade at this point in your computer world. Your current computer is very capable and most likely a new CPU and new M.2 drive will be faster but the gains will most likely not be worth the cost. It's fun and can be a bit of a placebo but performance gains from your current system will come in very small, maybe not even noticeable, increments.
Yeah, I am having some fun, but wanting to see of I can improve what I am doing a bit. With any CAD software, once you get good at what you're doing, you can often outperform the processing... click, click, click is always nicer than... click, click, wait, click. I will need to pay closer attention as I work to notice how CA is working and then once I upgrade how it works.
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8 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:
If the motherboard noted in the pic above is indeed the one you have than an M.2 drive will have access to PCIe 4.0 and faster speeds. Took a while to find the info in the link below, it's a pic towards bottom of page.
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-Z490-PLUS-WI-FI/
Thank you for the info!
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Per pcpartpicker - my motherboard can work with the Intel 11900K... see image
But does require some additional items... see image
I did just build this computer a little over a year ago with some upgrades since, but I would not be against putting in a new motherboard.
For those who may find this thread, my son turned me onto this guy who tests and helps you find the right hardware...EDIT: I wanted to add that with my motherboard, it does support the "Intel® Core™ i9-11900K" with an update to the BIOS. Based on my study into the CPU fans I believe the one I have is already fine for this setup.
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12 hours ago, Kbird1 said:
Lots of anything with Curves eg Oval Sinks (* lots of them)
PDFs saved it Plans
CAD Line work from a "Trace"
can all slow CA dramatically.
Mick.
Good info! Thank you
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12 hours ago, Kbird1 said:
Don't tell him.... but your son is right
, you would Clone the SSD to the NVME, except he should of told you to get it quick for the Black Friday Deal.....
However you won't (maybe , need MOBO info) get PCIe 4.0 speeds (7000) only PCIe 3.0 ( 3500?, still 5 x faster that a Sata SSD) as you need a 11th gen CPU to enable PCIe 4 Lanes and the 10700k we both have doesn't have them. My Motherboard (Mobo) a Z590 can with a 11th gen. but my 10th gen CPU can't.
Mick.
Thank you Mick. I was thinking a new CPU may be in order. Back in the 80's I built all of our companies computers, but today I relay on my two sons and people like yourself as my interest is not what it used to be
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This was very helpful...
I would say I follow all these recommendations quite well and my speed is just fine for 95% of my work. I can experience some lag with larger houses, and then I keep my 3D off as much as I can which does speed it up. I do zoom meetings often where I use one monitor and split the screen to plan and 3D and then things slow down a bit.
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Another question I will have, and you can see that I have 4 monitors which I love as I draw (plan view) on the bottom left, 3D floor in my bottom right, client notes, etc on the top left and my email, calendar, schedule software (Asana), G-Drive, etc, in a browser on my top right. Works very nice.
My question is can 60Hz monitors slow down the performance of CA? Or better said, can a higher Hz increase performance speed with CA?
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On 11/19/2021 at 2:43 PM, Kbird1 said:
Hi , you notice the NVME speed increase at 1st , then a few days later it is normal and you don't notice it in everyday use , at least that was my experience.
Make sure the Undo and Temp folders are on the NVME Drive now, they should be but I have dedicated folders on C:\ I point Chief to use instead....
They are generally empty when Chief is in use but occasionally leave download folders and undo.plans behind eg if there is a crash.
Hi Mick, (or anyone with knowledge of this)
I am about to order the "SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c Samsung V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V8P2T0B/AM" - "Get read speeds up to 7,000 MB/s with 980 PRO" per Newegg.com
My son is telling me I should just reinstall CA on this drive and not on the C: drive. Does this make sense to gain some speed? Most of my work is without an issue now on SSD drives. My storage drive is where I have all my plans.
I never paid attention until I read this thread and see we can control where the Temp and Undo folders are located, and it hit me that CA, knowing that these files are being accessed within the operation that we can take advantage of putting these folders on a NVMe drive to speed up file transfer rates.
This seems like a good move - yes?
Thank you,
Steve
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4 hours ago, glennw said:
Steve,
I mentioned that way back near the beginning
Sorry I missed that. Good call
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22 minutes ago, Chrisb222 said:
You have "trusses" checked in the Build Roof DBX. That will override the Structure value and instead use the setting in the Framing Default, Trusses which I suspect is set to 3-1/2".
Ah!! Thank you very much!
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It's a new drawing and I only have the two roof planes which were auto generated from the defaults. Set to 7.25, generated to 3.5
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When I set the roof structure thickness to 7.25, the roofs are still generated at 3.5
https://www.loom.com/share/58d662203eb545dfb7acf75239cde336
Thoughts?
Thank you,
Steve
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So I learned from support that for winders to work, you need to make the space the stairs are in a room. I did not make the basement stairs yet so did not have a room. I added a few room divider walls and it works. FYI
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Here is the final result and DBX options on each wall...
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5 hours ago, yusuf-333 said:
Hey Steve
Great you have got all the setting, I see you uploaded the dbx. You missed the other important setting to make the smooth transitions. The newel setting!
Let me add a little more explanation.
How does the program calculate the railing on top of different sections in a railing? I found out that it depends on the newel spacing. If the newel spacing is set to 50cm and compare it with another one with 100cm spacing, you will see the former will have smooth transitions.
Therefore, if you set NS=0 and (newel width = 0) you get perfect smooth transitions.
I watched your video and see you had issues with smoothness. Hope that helps.
Thank you! That makes perfect sense!
Perfection!!
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Here is what I have...
https://www.loom.com/share/97a8d4d7d505469ea195b3c8a7459e08
I do have some issue with my winders, they are not working and have a support ticket open. That might be my issue. I will update once I get an answer to that.
Thank you,
Steve
Question For The Computer Guys
in General Q & A
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Ah! Thus the "Clone". Thank you