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Mark - thanks again. You've given me plenty to work on this weekend! I really appreciate all the help... Kevin

Mark - thanks again for the explanation and the .plan file. It has been very helpful. I spent some time studying the plan this morning. So, in order to use this method, I need to add your door symbol to my library (or create my own) when building new cabinets? I'll need a custom symbol for each depth I want to represent? Where did you create the door symbol? Within, CA or SketchUp? I ask as it has three different materials assigned, so I'm guessing it was built out of faces in SketchUp? Or can this be done in CA? My apologies for all the questions, but I'd really like to start using this method. Another thing I can't seem to figure out - why doesn't CA have a top drawer front with reduced height rails? I've looked through the core catalogs and other vendors and I can't seem to find one. This isn't so needed with Shaker style fronts, but quite necessary with raised panel. We usually reduce the rails on smaller drawers to 1.5" in lieu of 2.25" to give more room for hardware.

Mark - and you're right, I couldn't get away from 20/20 quick enough although other designers around here use it. I ended up using FormZ modeling everything from scratch and exporting elevations to AutoCAD for layout. I was hoping CA would be a more automated solution. Looks like it can be with some workarounds.

Mark and Mick - thanks for the workarounds. I think these are both clever ways to go about this. I understand Mick's solution after seeing the .plan file, but I don't follow you Mark when you say, "Then use side panel inset to place separations in the back so the openings are correct". Are you saying configure the back of the cabinet to get my stretchers and partitions spaced as I want, thereby, omitting the back completely? Sorry, I just don't follow. Kevin

Mick - I appreciate your input. All I am really looking for is an accurate elevation for smaller jobs. I usually list the door/drawer sizes for the shop as I'm a stickler for having all door/drawer fronts in alignment. I have noticed there are quite a few things I need to "let go" of as pertains to CA. You aren't the first to tell me that.

Mark - thank you very much for the file. It helped me to understand what Chief is doing with all the components in layout. Still seems strange to me that is was programmed this way, but at least I now know how to get the door/drawer fronts the correct size.

Joe - thanks for the reply. I checked out the KCD software. Looks like they thought of everything. Not too sure about their touchscreen design function as it looks cumbersome. Our company already has ProKitchen and 20/20 - both of which I can't stand to use. I was hoping I could create all my visualizations in CA with very little importing from other apps.

We have a custom cabinet shop and I was hoping to use CA generated cabinet elevations for shop use on smaller jobs instead of AutoCAD. The first attachment (image left side) shows our standard full-overlay frameless box construction w/ 3/4" sides, top, bottom, and back. We use a 4-1/2" high toekick which creates a 30" high carcass for our typical 34-1/2" high base cabinet. The image on the right side (same first attachment) shows the reveals we use for our door/drawer fronts on our typical base cabinet. The bottom door is always flush with the cabinet box and there is an 1/8" reveal between the door and the drawer. Above the drawer there is another 1/8" reveal under the countertop. This describes our typical vertical layout (to use CA terms). As for horizontal layout, all door and drawer fronts are held back 1/16" from the cabinet box at the sides, so when adjacent cabinets are placed, we maintain this 1/8" reveal everywhere. I am having a difficult time achieving this layout in CA using the custom layout tools under the Front/Sides/Back panel. As far as I can figure, they are combining the door/drawer fronts with the specs of the cabinet box and adding an automatic overlay of the fronts beyond the stretchers and cabinet box parts while subtracting the full-overlay reveal (1/16" in this case). When selecting the fronts (whether door or drawer) you are actually selecting the box opening. Correct? If so, it seems backwards to me. How is it possible for me to meet the specifications shown in the first attachment? It would be nice to set the overall width and height of the door/drawer fronts independently of the cabinet box and have the box parts adjust automatically. This is how it is done in any other cabinet design software I have used. I have no idea how much the fronts are overlaying these openings. Can someone clarify that Chief is asking for input on the box opening and if so, how is Chief calculating the door/drawer overhangs? I have sent cabinet elevations to CAD layout to measure the reveals and am having mixed results. Thanks!

Thanks Mick. Will do...

Thanks Mick. I read that article twice. It didn't help with the quirky tip on the edge of the wall. I ended up pulling the wall back to get the proper slope. Although, not like the as-built, it will have to do.

Thanks Eric. You are correct - they were drawn in separate views.

I'm trying to put a hole in a polyline solid and I keep getting the error msg: "No polyline of the same type found to contain this hole...". What am I doing wrong? I have also tried a boolean subtraction and that doesn't work either. Baker_As-Built_09-10-19.plan

Thanks!

Thanks. The wall is not so easy. I need the bottom of the wall to continue at the same angle - not turn parallel to the floor at the tip. Also, the "railing" wall on the second flight of stairs does nothing with "follow stairs" checked. If I pull the wall back flush with the bottom riser, I am able to achieve the correct look, however, the wall is not supposed to be flush with the 1st riser. Any ideas?

I need to slope the front only of this wall in the direction of the arrow. I've seen videos online where it can be done, but in this instance I do not get a grab handle. Could that be since it is defined as a railing wall? If anyone has an idea of how to do this, please let me know. I will be adding stair railing on top to match the photo (2nd attachment). Thanks.

Yes, it didn't take very long with a polyline solid. I appreciate the input.

Thanks for the suggestions. Alchemyjim - I tried placing an invisible wall to "bridge" the two brick columns. When I did this, the end caps of the brick walls disappeared.

That said, my siding had a tendency to wrap over the slab, so I had to manually pull it up to expose the slab. I hope it sticks.

Don - thanks for the suggestion. I went ahead and built it out of polyline solids. It took less than 10 minutes.

Thanks for the reply. The slab on the front porch needs to be recessed for the brick pavers and there is no footing connecting the two brick column walls. I was going to fill this area in with a polyline sold.

Joey - thanks for taking the time to answer. I think I've got it now, however, I end up with a lip where the two planes of drywall need to attach. I have tried moving the ceiling plane forward to meet on the outside, but CA pushes it back behind the vertical layer of drywall. Any work around for this or is this as good as it gets? Thanks again, Kevin Also, if you have any idea on how to get rid of the baseboard poking through, I'm listening. I am unable to select the room and delete the baseboard under the moldings panel (it's grayed out). If I remove it from the wall by ticking "no room moldings", the baseboard doesn't show up in the adjacent room where I need it. Any ideas?

Sorry to be blowing up the forum this weekend, but I've got a project due Tueseday and am running into all kinds of things with a 70's as-built. My latest issue is getting the footings of my slab foundation to align correctly with two projecting brick columns at the entry of the home. When I auto-build the foundation it does a fairly good job, but ignores these brick column walls. When I extend the already generated footings to cover these areas I run into all kinds of problems. I have attached various images including a screen grab of the original plans from the 70's along with the Chief file. Would someone please tell me how to accomplish this? Baker_As-Built_07-26-19.plan

Eric - I appreciate you looking at this. I tried drawing the ceiling plan myself this morning and can't get it in the proper location nor can I invert is so that drywall is on the top. How did you do this? Kevin

Eric & Steve - thanks for the videos. They were both very helpful. Kevin

You're amazing. I'm being made to leave my computer to go out to eat. I'll take a look at the video when I return. Thanks again for everything! Kevin