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2 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

What date is on yours?

It is yesterdays date and I downloaded the program today.

I don't know if it has anything to do with those dates but I also reset all these defaults to get me back do out of the box Chief

3 minutes ago, Designer1 said:

Thanks everyone for the replies.  Joe, thanks for posting those pictures as that made it 100% more understandable as Ive never had to mess with any preference plans for the last 16 years using chief so this was a new one. I have made a new plan template for myself but never had to mess with the default one.  Thanks for taking the extra time to post those pictures they sure helped me a lot!

Your welcome!

How about that guy's! I finally helped someone!

Where are my brownie points!!!

This is the way I set mine

I know you guys are saying the same thing but this is just a picture of it.

58 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

Not that I am aware of yet , and unless X11 just changed the ML for the better , it does not do a full industry standard take-off yet, it only lists exactly what is in the model ...without alot of work adding components and accessories etc yourself to each Item and working with macros etc......

 

this is also something I have wanted for a long while now as a Builder too.

I have an estimating program that I built for my business in excel years ago and it has developed a lot over the years. I kept it very simple. Trying to figure a way to get it to work with Chief somehow.

Is there any estimating software that integrates with Chief yet or is it a better Idea to build it within Chief or not do it at all with Chief?

24 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

Upgrade button in your digital locker ...it has fooled a few....

Found it! Thank You!

How do I get X11? I'm paid up with my SSA until march of 2020!

Thank you for the help!

I'm still trying to wrap all this around my little pee brain so your input is very helpful. I'm organizing all my thoughts on paper so I can clearly see it. Takes time for this to soak in but I will get it eventually. 

Plan View vs. Annotation Sets:

Please let me know if I have this right or if it opens another question to anyone.

This is the way that I’m figuring to use “Plan Views” to work with my needs:

Annotation Sets are great in the way that you can set all your defaults to work together with your layer sets. So instead of coming up with a lot of “Plan Views” for presets I will still start with the annotation set and save the plan view as I’m creating a new plan. In this way I only have the Plan View that relates to the current plan I’m working with. So, in this way your Plan view set doesn’t get long and have a bunch of views you don’t need in your current plan.

I’m assuming that when you save a Plan View that when you change the “Saved Plan View Specifications” as per the attached picture that it doesn’t change the Annotation set that I started with. Is that correct? Or is it still working off the setting’s in the annotation set? Are they completely independent of each other once you save the Plan View?

Hope this makes sense. Any help or input would be much appreciated. 

To bad they don't have a material region tool for the ceiling or vaulted ceiling like they do for the floor and wall.

2 hours ago, ACADuser said:

I would use DensGlass or

https://www.lowes.com/pd/James-Hardie-48-in-x-96-in-HardieSoffit-Porch-Panel-Primed-Fiber-Cement-Solid-Soffit/3169963

 

Ya and i believe James-Hardie backer has the fire rating so we kill two birds with one stone. Unless I'm wrong?

Yes fire rating is required. Even if I did a wood ceiling I would have to still do the 5/8 type X drywall first with fire-tape. So that's why its a lot less expensive just to put a finish on the drywall and be done with it. And I could still do baton strips or Faux beams to dress it up if they want.

Thank guy's that helped a lot!

15 minutes ago, JJohnson said:

Could you use DensShield ?

 

DensShield

 

I have a lot of deck and porch soffit area on my current building project, and

was going to use DenShield with 1/4" stucco coating. 

 

We changed to 2x6 V Grrove Doug Fir T&G

 

 

I agree I like wood the best

1 hour ago, Kbird1 said:

 

Well no doubt the Pine T&G or perhaps a Cedar T&G would be much nicer , but I would use G1S Ply and some 1/2x 1 1/2 battens over joints etc to save some money if needed and give it a "panelled" look, perhaps a couple of fake Beams in Cedar too, before I used drywall and texture outdoors.... Texture should not go anywhere near Drywall especially Ceilings, but perhaps that is just me

I'm sorry,

You must be misunderstanding me on the type of texture. I'm just says standard drywall with joint compound that you would do on the interior. Not "Tex Coat".

Anyway it really doesn't matter we got off my original question. I have never used drywall on the exterior before as a finish product even if it is a porch covered ceiling.

My question is; has anyone ever seen it before being used in this application? It is on the plans that i'm building a house on and I'm skeptical but the city approved it so maybe it will be fine.

45 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

Curious what kind of "Texture"? ..........  as why not use Plywood and an Acrylic Stucco System?

 

M.

I'm suggesting other finishes because I'm not a fan of doing drywall on the outside. The reason would be that its the least expensive way to go. I'm suggesting to do a nice 1x8 T&G painted or stained.

Like this job I just did. This is IPE wood so I would suggest pine because it is a lot less cost.

1 minute ago, Chief16Designer said:

It's no problem  but I would use exterior drywall 

Yes, Green Board, I'm assuming your talking about? Or is there another product I don't know about?

6 minutes ago, Ridge_Runner said:

Until the place goes up in flames and the mudslides start!

Or you can live in the fire safe areas along with the "Brown Cloud" (smog). LOL

As much as I don't like the congestion of CA I love the weather and resources are unlimited!

Mountains, lakes, oceans, deserts…. All close traveling distance

California Question

I have a customer that wants to do drywall with a hand texture on his patio ceiling. I have seen it done in Parker Arizona on a river house but not much out here in California. Is that a no no or is it ok to do?

The cover for the patio is actually the second floor above it.

This is not my design

It is interesting hearing about different peoples opinions and from different areas of the country.

If you really want to make the money in Architecture and/or Design (I say design because that is what unlicensed people call themselves) California is the place to be but as always California go's to the extreme with regulations and the homeowners pay for it. The cost for plans and permits and all the other red tape I find to be about 10 to 20% of the building cost. To me that is crazy! Before you would even begin a $100,000.00 job it will cost the homeowner 10 to 20k. I can handle 10% but anything more then that seems to be a total waist of money.

Example of waist of money:

The latest in the wonderful world of Whittier, CA is that before you can submit a plan to the building department for a room addition they make you pay a sewer camera guy to inspect your sewer line from the house out to the city lateral. The camera average cost is about 500.00 and the city charges you $280.00 for them to sit and watch the 10 minute long video of your sewer line. If they find damage to the line you have to fix it before you can submit plans to the building department for the work you want to do. Sewer line replacement or sewer liner cost start out at about 6k and go up from there. The job I am currently doing is 8k. And if the lateral out in the street (city property!) is damaged the homeowner pays for it and not the city!

It gets worse:

A contractor has to have a special license to work in the city street where the lateral is located and so there is another 6 to 20k depending on how far and how deep.

If you decide to go with a liner thru the pipe its easier but more expensive unless you are doing it out to the lateral and that is were you save the money. But!, If a plumber ever comes out and jets that line in the future or runs a snake through it you can damage the liner.

The inspection of your sewer line may not be a waist of money but the city fee of 280.00 is!

Not only the Architects and designers can prosper from all this, the contractors can also if they play their cards right. General contractors can have their hand in all of it

Ethical? You decide!

14 minutes ago, DianneDSC said:

Even if drawings are not required for permits, good design is needed and should be valuable to clients. Perhaps market and sell design solutions with 3d visualization. Also, construction documents for remodels and custom home design help convey what is to be built so builders can provide clients with more accurate pricing and be included with the contract. Potential clients and builders may need to be educated and shown the value in having professional designed solutions. It's not always about just what's needed for permits.  

I agree with you but if its not required by the city only people with deep pockets will pay the high cost for a designer or Architect. You have to advertise it the right area's. 

1 hour ago, Ridge_Runner said:

The easiest way for me was to use what you already know and use.

Go to the floor you want for the planview

Make sure the annoset you want is showing, which should set your layerset

As Michael says, this should now have all of your Active Defaults set

Now just hit the Save Planview button.

You just created a Planview that, when chosen, will set the Annoset and Layerset and the floor it was taken on. You can then, if need be, add a reference set to use, as well as the other things this thread says you can set.

It's just not that hard. 

Go thru your plan and set up as many new planviews as you want. I like to open several of them at a time in the tab structure. One click and you can switch between them or move them to other monitors, etc.

Thank you for saving me some time! I have my new plan template set up already. Very easy!

That's the part I have to figure out, is to set up my plan sets or views and to be tied into the right anno set. I haven't studied yet but if someone wants to shortcut me I would appreciate it.

In other words: How do I tie it into what I already have set up?

13 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

You’re more than welcome.  And sorry, I meant to answer your question but something important came up so I had to leave for a bit.

 

I believe there are a handful of good reasons to keep annosets around.  They can serve a unique purpose still and give another layer of options to work with (Rene gave one good example above).  Even if they didn’t though, I think they would likely stick around for quite a while for the “old school” guys and gals, for legacy reasons, and for larger companies with large databases who find it would be too costly to switch systems. 

 

Having said all that though, I also think that the vast majority of Chiefers could completely do away with them and they would be better off. 

Im already on it!

Plan views are very powerful and easy to learn (maybe because I already have been using anno sets for some time and understand them). Looks like Chief did a nice job on this. I'm excited to start using plan views as soon as I start my new drawing tomorrow. I already see several benefits from switching over.