Plasterboard extends below the framing & floor


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Hi, new to x16 here. I'm having trouble working out why my new interior wall types insist on extending the interior plasterboard below the wall framing. It causes the plasterboard to poke through the floor and then defaults the structural flooring material back to OSB (my design uses a specific brand backerboard).

Thanks in advance :)

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It's unclear what you've done.  Close the file and post it.  Zip it needed to be under 15 Mb limit.

 

Chief walls build floor platforms.  Exterior walls (those at edges of floors) typically have their exterior layers extend to cover edges of floor platforms.

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Maybe you have a room molding set to go below the floor?  Also, check your wall type and look at your "layer properties" to see if you have accidently set a "layer extension".  If it's not one of those things, then you should probably post a plan like Gene suggested.

 

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I'm drawing a set of office containers as per my structural engineer's specifications. I need all wall layers to start and end with the framing.

 

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I have only created 2 wall types so there's nothing to send really. Just trying to set up wall types from scratch to create the final required Floor Plan + elevations for council submission.

Outer shell is 75mm sandwich panel (non-structural): 1.3 mm sheet steel + 72.4 mineral wool + 1.3 mm sheet steel

 

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Inner shell spec by engineers (structural): 50mm C-Section studs + Plasterboard

 

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Inner room dividers spec by engineers (structural): Plasterboard + 75mm C-Section studs + Plasterboard

 

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I understand you might suggest I build it all as a single wall type, however I need to separate them in order to accommodate the wall cavities in the ensuite & bathroom (for wall hang toilet + inwall cistern etc).

 

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Flooring is 8mm cement fibre sheeting (not OSB) laid over the usual shipping container floor blocking, although there are some additional structural members my engineers have included.

 

Since the structural plans are done, I'm not too worried how the program interprets the framing etc. I just need the architectural plans to reflect the correct elevations & room usage.

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Here's a completely new wall type for the inner shell, with the specified 450mm stud spacing:

 

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All wall settings to meet the steel frame layer:

 

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It still extends the plasterboard below the frame by default:

 

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I recreated every one of your walls this morning and never once saw the problem.  I'm fairly certain it is your floor, but you've only provided us this little gem:  

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And I've been unsuccessful at guessing what combination of platform settings would recreate your problem.  Gene asked for the plan file to eliminate this guesswork.  We're here to provide you a solution.  

 

Don't want to send us that plan file?  Export the walls, import them into a new plan file, recreate a 4 walled room with the interior drywall extending below the floor deck (like your original 3 pictures) and send us this plan file instead.  Whilst doing so, you may discover what setting caused this problem.  And if not, we are all here to help.

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This project is all upfit work inside shipping containers?

 

And the insulated wall type is used around the perimeter walls of the containers?  Sort of like a furring wall against the inside face of a concrete wall?

 

And your 8mm floor is really the finish atop the container floor structure?

 

Just post a plan.

 

 

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I think you need to create a container, which is in effect the "as-built house" into which these various interior wall types are built to outfit it all for the purpose.

 

Single layer exterior walls, single layer floor structure.  The floor structure is the container floor blocking.  
 

It looks like your walls (the upfit interior, insulated or not) are modular panels with their joints set by layer material board size, cut down as needed per plan scheme.

 

Is this a visualization project, or one for which highly detailed construction docs are needed, or both?

 

 

 

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I worked it out! You were both instrumental in finding ways to go about it. Thanks guys :)

 

I ended up using the floor blocking from the shipping container library and then copied it as the ceiling blocking and put the sandwich panel walls in between. I created the entire shell (inner and outer) in one wall type structure, then broke it down into separate inner and outer types just for the wall cavity areas.

 

The only issue I have left is one internal wall plasterboard wants to attach itself to the external layer.

 

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Odd thing is: it's an exact replica of the opposite side which behaves correctly.

 

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I'm not going to lose sleep over a single white line tho! I'm chuffed I got where I needed to go.

 

I removed my other posts since I'm all sorted now.

 

Thanks again!

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