Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Hello i need help with this problem that i'm having with Stair Runners i'm having this gap in between the runner and the Upstairs floor in which im hoping that someone can help me to solve? Kind Regards: Stephen999 Version Chief Architect Premier X11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 55 minutes ago, Stephen999 said: Hello i need help with this problem that i'm having with Stair Runners i'm having this gap in between the runner and the Upstairs floor in which im hoping that someone can help me to solve? Kind Regards: Stephen999 Version Chief Architect Premier X11 I believe to get that gap to disappear, you'll need to ensure that the stairs are snapped to the framing layer of the floor above. Quick guess would be that your stairs are currently snapped to the drywall layer. Correction: the tread and nosing material will need to be the same as the carpet runner! Unfortunately, the nosing material can only be set by the stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 4 hours ago, robdyck said: I believe to get that gap to disappear, you'll need to ensure that the stairs are snapped to the framing layer of the floor above. Quick guess would be that your stairs are currently snapped to the drywall layer. Correction: the tread and nosing material will need to be the same as the carpet runner! Unfortunately, the nosing material can only be set by the stairs. Hi so is there no other way to fix it apart from Nosing? As when textured it sadly does all the stairs as well as you mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Stephen999 said: Hi so is there no other way to fix it apart from Nosing? As when textured it sadly does all the stairs as well as you mentioned There's always a way. It just means manually placing a molding or p-solid to act as the nosing. Another glaring issue that requires a work-around would be that stringer sticking up past the upper floor surface. The solution is turn off the closed stringer and make your own using a p-solid. At least then, you can also control its thickness and the material for the stringer separate from the risers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, robdyck said: There's always a way. It just means manually placing a molding or p-solid to act as the nosing. Another glaring issue that requires a work-around would be that stringer sticking up past the upper floor surface. The solution is turn off the closed stringer and make your own using a p-solid. At least then, you can also control its thickness and the material for the stringer separate from the risers. Hi i'm new to chief could you tell me how to use P-Solids and how to access them in the Catalog? i have turned off Stringers so now my stairs look like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Stephen999 said: Hi i'm new to chief could you tell me how to use P-Solids and how to access them in the Catalog? i have turned off Stringers so now my stairs look like this No problem Stephen. In order to draw the appropriate polyline solid, you'll need to take a section / elevation view through the stairs. You can then draw a p-solid using the p-solid tool and then size and shape it to be the stair stringer. A couple of pointers: -a psolid will 'be' on whatever surface you draw it on. You can move it in plan view, but it's best to draw it on the surface you want it on, like the drywall in this case. -make sure you're on the correct floor when you draw it. -a p-solid drawn in elevation view behaves differently than one drawn in plan view. A bit of practice will help you decide which to use and when. If you post a plan, I'll quickly draw one in for you and send it back. Then you'll be able to see what I've done. A bit easier than typing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, robdyck said: No problem Stephen. In order to draw the appropriate polyline solid, you'll need to take a section / elevation view through the stairs. You can then draw a p-solid using the p-solid tool and then size and shape it to be the stair stringer. A couple of pointers: -a psolid will 'be' on whatever surface you draw it on. You can move it in plan view, but it's best to draw it on the surface you want it on, like the drywall in this case. -make sure you're on the correct floor when you draw it. -a p-solid drawn in elevation view behaves differently than one drawn in plan view. A bit of practice will help you decide which to use and when. If you post a plan, I'll quickly draw one in for you and send it back. Then you'll be able to see what I've done. A bit easier than typing! Hi my current plan is to big to upload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Stephen999 said: Hi my current plan is to big to upload you tried zipping it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, robdyck said: you tried zipping it? Oh silly me i forgot to zip it Plan.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Stephen999 said: Oh silly me i forgot to zip it Plan.zip It looks to me like your file name should be 'house and garage'...just sayin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, robdyck said: It looks to me like your file name should be 'house and garage'...just sayin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, Stephen999 said: Plan.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, robdyck said: Plan.zip Thanks i will check this out this means a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 it ain't no thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, robdyck said: it ain't no thing. Hi i cant open the New plan named House & Garage here is a screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Stephen999 said: Hi i cant open the New plan named House & Garage here is a screen zero kb is a bit too small. I'll try that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 try this one. A bunch of textures will be missing because of different file paths. House_and_garage.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, robdyck said: try this one. A bunch of textures will be missing because of different file paths. House_and_garage.plan Mm very interesting great job i will really have to learn how to do this as it will help me a lot in future projects thanks again One thing that i have done though i have turned this into a Symbol so that i can use it again and again in similar circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stephen999 said: Mm very interesting great job i will really have to learn how to do this as it will help me a lot in future projects thanks again Depending on what you're priorities are for accuracy, in that same stair section view, you could add a 3d molding (that follows the top edge of the p-solid stringer) and you could apply a molding with a rounded edge to better represent a carpet wrapped stringer. It would soften the edge. Or that molding could be used as wood trim to cap the top of the stringer. Unnecessary for construction docs, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 12:00 AM, robdyck said: Depending on what you're priorities are for accuracy, in that same stair section view, you could add a 3d molding (that follows the top edge of the p-solid stringer) and you could apply a molding with a rounded edge to better represent a carpet wrapped stringer. It would soften the edge. Or that molding could be used as wood trim to cap the top of the stringer. Unnecessary for construction docs, of course. Hi i have got quite far with understanding how Poly line Solids work? And have created a wall structure near the stairs i want to add like a molding going down and then up i have created the bottom part that is Grey but i cant make the other as it has a bend and elevation view isn't helping either here is a image showing a basic outline the yellow is the molding i did and the red is where i am having trouble making the other molding line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Draw it in section view as CAD lines and then turn it into a 3D molding line. Position it in plan view if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 2:42 AM, Ridge_Runner said: Draw it in section view as CAD lines and then turn it into a 3D molding line. Position it in plan view if necessary. Hi again i have created a molding with CAD Lines on a wall but the wall end goes on a bend how would i add the other molding i have an image the red is the one i made and the green is the bend where i want the molding to join somehow??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, solver said: There are lots of good videos on the Chief site to go over these type of things. Consider spending some time there watching and maybe reading articles and you will be able to answer questions like this for yourself. That's the thing i have searched YouTube but i cant find many if any dealing with this particular query? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 20 hours ago, solver said: Draw CAD lines in plan to follow the wall. Convert to a Molding Polyline. Like Solver said, draw that one in plan. What you want to do determines whether to draw in elevation or plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen999 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 @solver @Ridge_Runner Quote Hi guys thanks for both suggestions i have managed to create it in Plan like you both mentioned i had to move the molding to the correct surface as doing it in plan make the molding on the ground but apart from that i have a nice molding now so cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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