HumbleChief

Just learned that from tech support and could be a game changer in a few cases.

Sent the plan in to tech and they couldn't resolve the inconsistency. They suggested I create a roof overhang of 1/64" which works great even though Chief won't show 1/64" in the dbx the measurement actually sticks, which is something I didn't know.

On 11/22/2023 at 4:28 PM, TeaTime said:

Does there?

 

Two options come to mind immediately with this sort of thing:

1) Exactly what you did: Duplicate floor structure, add air gap. This is great because the cavity doesn't need to show on the plan, and the Relative Ceiling heights are totally functional.

2) Create that room on Floor 3. Shorten the cavity room on Floor 2. The downside is that obviously the cavity room shows on the floor 2 plan and the actual room is separated to Floor 3. Awkward. But it works.

Thanks Tea, and I'm thinking since I've done the leg work on the real plan I should just stick with this idea.

On 11/22/2023 at 8:15 PM, glennw said:

I haven't had a chance to look at your plan yet but a room with a Shelf Ceiling may work.

 

 

Thanks Glenn, can't find a way to get that to work as it's the entire room that needs the raised floor, not just room with the room.

On 11/22/2023 at 12:41 PM, Joe_Carrick said:

Place a landing right on top of the floor and size it to your desired width, depth & height.

Thanks Joe, that might work in the demo plan but the floor plan I'm trying to duplicate is very odd shaped and I need to spec the framing with more detail.

I've attached a pic of what I'm trying to duplicate and have a test plan file linked below where I used a pretty complex series of floor structures and air gaps and framing but there has to be an easier way?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nloivz0c2gm2ykyqk6lwd/RAISED-PLATFORM-1.plan?rlkey=xv2jizk1jp7e1zfbhdzei6xm9&dl=0

This is mostly a curiosity question now as I can deal with the original house plan but the video shows what I consider to be inconsistent behavior. And thanks again for taking a look.

Thanks Mick, the inconsistency is shown in the pic and the plan. All of the roofs are set up the same (I think) and all auto generated but the second floor (which is a parapet in the house photo but not a parapet in this test plan) shows the walls flush with and rising to the roof surface but the first floor walls come up short with the rafters exposed. And the roof planes are intended to be flush with the walls so pulling them off and inch or 2 will create a fascia but not flush like floor 2 shows.

So curious why, in the test plan, the second floor frames and finishes correctly but the first floor doesn't?

Thanks Mick and good point. The lower roof has a shallow hip and the upper roof is a parapet. Parapet is easy but the other roofs seem to be inconsistent. In my test plan as the pic shows the upper floor roof planes seem to resolve themselves but the lower roof shows the rafters without the stucco finish reaching the finish roofing material. I think all the settings are the same for each roof plane so not understanding the inconsistencies. 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/in87uulmwv618toanqdcg/zero-roof-overhang.plan?rlkey=w4qrind0ao5tok36gc8m81f1x&dl=0

I might have figured something out but it's inconsistent and doesn't seem like such an unusual condition. Anyone else have a solution?

13 minutes ago, solver said:

I'm sure it depends on exactly what you need. This is auto built with a roof that is just the surface. I made the pesky auto attic wall invisible on the near side. It will go away if you raise the roof.

 

Thanks Eric! But I need a roof structure as well

...without dragging up the walls manually?

6 minutes ago, TeaTime said:

I'm pretty sure all Lock Toolbars does is remove the little handle on the docked toolbars so they can't be moved around. Though it might also make floating toolbars undockable? But it's not going to lock the location of floating toolbars, or make them "unclosable." hitting the X will always hide that toolbar.

 

To be clear though when you say it disappears are you able to right click the toolbar area and just recheck that toolbar in the Toolbars list? Or is it gone from there too?

I think I might have accidently closed the tool bar with the red 'X' but was able to find it in the 'toolbars' list and 'check marked' it back on in plan view. Thanks very much for the help!!!

This happens occasionally and can't understand it. I have a small custom toolbar that floats in the plan area and it just disappeared - again. I have Lock Toolbars checked but every once in a while that floating tool bar disappears - from every where, including my template plans. Small PIA but a PIA none the less. Any advice?

15 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:

Or use a girder truss (possibly doubled/tripled) for the ridge where there is no bearing wall and hang half length trusses off those girder trusses?

BTW I've done this before and the truss company can figure all your loads for you.

2 hours ago, solver said:

Why not split the trusses and have them land on a bearing wall? 

Or use a girder truss (possibly doubled/tripled) for the ridge where there is no bearing wall and hang half length trusses off those girder trusses?

I had the prefs set to always and session. Set it to always and always THANK YOU

Chief is great at opening each dialog box in the previous location but the "Go To Layout Page" dbx seems to persist in the middle of the page for each new session even though I relocate it to be directly under the Layout Page spec at the top of the page during each new session. Anyone else seeing this? Minor but annoying.

Found the layout box defaults (which in the case above also covers the PDF's that end up in a Layout Box) Thanks

Thanks Ryan, like just now I imported a few PDF files into a Layout all with labels as the default. Or an elevation into Layout and each comes with a label by default. I then need to select each and 'suppress label'. I'd rather add labels than need to select and suppress.

Just curious.

Thanks Chris, I don't use plot lines to Layout but may for this, even though it's a very small issue.

AWESOME JOE!! Worked perfectly!!

Is there a way to create an arched doorway with a railing underneath as the pic shows? This was created with 2 short walls on either side and a railing wall in the middle then a PSoild for the arch but was wondering if there's a way to create same with an arched 'doorway' with a railing underneath?

Thanks