HumbleChief

Mike, I drew a simple CAD box and vertical and horizontal lines and everything snaps just as it should, and how it seems it used to for you. Have not seen the behavior you're describing and can only duplicate it with snaps turned off. Sorry that's not much help but do you have a plan that exhibits what you're seeing?

Thanks so much for all the help. Goofy plans are my trade mark so I've learned to live with it I have a client who uses and must have the files in X5 - otherwise couldn't agree more with the X6 kudos and recommendations. REALLY hard to go back to X5.

Thanks Jim, I changed the deck default height before and it still seemed to switch back and forth between being OK and not so OK. Could you please tell me if it looked funky when you first opened the plan? It seems like a couple of things 'fix' it but mostly just opening the plan seems to cure it.

As always Scott thanks for taking a look. Did it look wrong when you first opened the plan? I REALLY need to know as I think I've snapped. Just now I opened the dbx closed it and it looks fine. Weird is right. Worked on that for hours. Replaced the second floor problem disappeared. Re-opened plan problem re-appeared. I'm sending the file to an associate that knows very little about Chief. Hope it doesn't act up during his presentation. Thanks again.

So sorry. See attached. Oh Yeah it's an X5 file Floor Problem 1.zip

Wow. I've been working on this for a very long time this morning and for some reason the ceiling height in the main living area shows up about 5 - 6" higher than the second floor floor above in camera view. The ceiling height is set to 97" but in section and camera view it shows up higher than that and the floor above shows as if it's dropping down. I solved it once by replacing the second floor but when I re-opened the file the problem returned. Here's a back clipped cross section showing the higher ceiling, even thought the room dbx show a lower ceiling. and the dbx showing the setting Camera view showing the 2 levels. plan here FLOOR PROBLEM ZIP.zip

In the wall dbx on the roof tab look for "Roof cuts wall at bottom" - may solve your problem but like the other posters can't really tell what you're looking at without a pic or a plan.

Thanks Gene, Yeah I have DB account but tried that once and failed, I guess i'll learn again. Anyway problem was bonehead user error.

Maybe you don't copy and paste the window schedule from the first to the second floor so it can be seen both places in Layout - Maybe you place the first floor plan on the second floor Layout page and shrink the layout box to show just the window schedule - yeah that should work - never mind fixed it.

Just opened this plan and found all (single) windows have 2 labels. Delete the window deletes both labels. Can't post too big plan file - curious if anyone's seen/fixed this?

Set up your reference layer to show your roof from either floor on either floor. You can use the existing reference layer set or create your own specifically for roofs. Go to >Tools>Reference Floors and set that up the way you want, or just click on the floor number in the floor change dbx and will take you to the same place. Select which layer you want to use or create a new and you should be good to go.

Thanks Perry - worked a treat - probably did exactly that. Thanks Bill tried that but it was, as Perry discovered, associated with another cab..

Here's an X5 plan that has a bar sink in a counter and can't seem to select it to delete it. Any tips? BAR SINK ZIP.zip

Brilliant Glenn. So glad for your help and to know I'm not too crazy yet. I swear I looked everywhere for that but got nuthin. Again, and as always, thanks very much for your help.

Coulda sworn that was a new feature. Is there such a feature? Where? how? For a little more clarity I've got some steel beam framing and wood framing and I need to generate wall framing but don't want the wall framing to intrude into the steel beam framed walls. Really need to frame one wall at a time but don;t know how. Searched a ton of videos and googled everything I could think of. Maybe I just want that feature really bad... I suppose I could re-define the materials in the wall that I didn't want framed to be air gap but is there another way to have wall framing show in some walls and not others? It would be nice keep auto wall framing on.

SOG room defs? Soory what's SOG?

Come on Scott, lighten up a little. My time is pretty precious and I posted thinking someone had had this kind of experience before and could shed some light. Apparently not and I'm over it. I don't really HAVE to have the answer but it would have been nice and AS ALWAYS I appreciate ALL the help I receive here EVERY time, this time being no exception. In this case, and in most every other case what I really need are good Con Docs, not always a perfect model. Sure I could spend hours trying to get a plan that showed this behavior in the few instances I've seen it or trying to reduce the size of the model and zipping it but those hours would not be worth it - to me. My head is not in the sand, conversely it is focused on the job at hand - producing ConDocs - and I posted to see if there was anyone who had this experience before and could offer a quick fix. I don't have the time to pursue it any further but as always I appreciate the help and if I discover the problem I'll post the solution. Think about it - hours (I've already spent a lot of time on this) pursuing the perfect model or minutes with a simple CAD box? We each have different methods and different priorities and mine must lean towards the quicker fix at this point knowing the state and schedule of this project. "Another possibility is there is a room at level one that has a lowered floor." That's a great suggestion. When I get back to the plan I'll check it out.

Thanks Perry Yes on the MS and for some reason it won't connect as a room. I'll check the main layer and yes I've 'brought a good one around' to connect but no love. I'll probably stumble upon it but for now I'll use CAD fill and move on for the ConDocs.

Any manually drawn foundation wall that's not connected to form a 'room' draws with a concrete fill like the problem wall and as soon as those walls are connected to form a room the fill changes to the solid white fill. The wall is not invisible and I've drawn it 20 times in every different way I can think of but it won't 'connect' to form a room, if indeed that's the problem. May have to bail out and go with a CAD fill.

I always wondered why the footings will display differently depending on some factor I can't seem to figure out. I can usually re-draw a wall to cure it but in this plan (WAY too big to attach) I can't seem to get the footings to display consistently. The white fill on the left is how every footing is filled except for the one footing on the right corner. If I understood why they display differently (in this plan and many times others) I might be able to fix it.

I've got a dual Xeon processor setup (check my sig) and they are overclocked and move more data (giga flops) than the fastest single Xeon Processor by a very small margin but are they fast at RayTracing? MUCH faster (close to half the time) than my previous i7, can't remember which but an earlier model that was overclocked as well. But is it fast? No way to really tell without a test plan and all the details that that involves. I got a really good deal ($2500) on the set-up so I jumped but I would not expect blazing speed unless you really spend a boatload on fast(er) dual Xeons. Also remember that not all Motherboards allow Xeons to be over-clocked so a real world test of some kind is in order before spending the cash. The person who built my machine suggested the Xeons he had on hand after I told him that RayTracing is about CPU and moving data. Overall i'm happy with the system but certainly not blown away by the speed increase. I think it would still take that boatload of money to get real breakthrough RayTrace speed with today's technology - at least until they find a way to offload the RT work to the GPU - that's when the game will change completely.

Great thread. Always re-thinking detail management and am using separate plan, different floors but the different floors serves no real purpose in my system. Just spreads things out too much. Love the idea of a separate detail plan for Foundation, Windows etc. but don't manage my Layouts well enough to keep those detail plans up to date and that looks like what I'm going to change. Managing Layout is as important as any aspect in CA, associating files etc. and that's my weakest and hence most time consuming task in CA. Again great thread and thanks for the ideas.

You can also create a second (or upper) floor for all your attic walls. Wall heights controlled by roofs. Sometimes this is the only way to stay sane when afflicted with unruly attic walls.

Alt-Q is your friend.

I've used this program for a very long time starting with CA version 8 and nothing makes me feel more stupid than trying to figure out your problem. I downloaded your plan and couldn't figure it out.To this day I do not understand the structure dbx and I'm guessing I never will. That either means I really am stupid or the structure dbx is evil. Hopefully those who are smarter will assist.