kwhitt

I've got some ceiling trim that requires several compound angles.  I have exported my model out as .DAE and opened in another app where I created this trim.  Now I want to bring it back into Chief, but in the same world position so that I don't have to spend time placing it exactly where I want it.  Is this possible upon import?  Thanks, Kevin

24 minutes ago, MarkMc said:

I most often bring dwg into a cad detail but I also have a point set at 0,0 in my templates and set the bottom left corner of the building there. It helps if bringing in dwg from architect which I do a lot. You can add it at any time though.

"Input Point"

Thanks Mark.  Good idea.

20 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

Maybe try importing them into a blank cad detail or use your all off layer set with only the imported cad layer turned on and F6 for Fill Window.

Thanks Chop.  Yes, I guess importing into blank CAD or even a new plan would work.  I thought there might be a way to zoom in on selected - would save time.  Kevin

I've got a really busy floor plan.  When I import some DWG files to use as moldings, I can't always see where Chief has placed them upon import.  I'm assuming they come in at the 0,0 origin, but I don't always know where that is...  Is there a way to zoom into these newly imported, selected CAD segments?  If not, what is the easiest way to find them?  Is there a master objects list hidden somewhere in Chief?  Thanks, Kevin

13 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

This is a problem that comes up every once in a while and that should probably get fixed.  Hopefully you report it.  In the meantime, one thing you can do is figure out the dimension the object needs to be moved and then enter the required value(s) as a very small Origin Offset...

Thank you Michael for the workaround.  I will get it reported.  Kevin

On 10/4/2020 at 6:59 PM, MarkMc said:

A bit of an alternate for making angled hood symbol/parts, (threw in a couple of variations in the cabinet doors). Just for ideas, middle of setting up new machine so don't have libraries yet but you will get the idea . Eliminates the 1/32 issue, some variations will use default cabinet molding and use cabinet defaults for finishes. Now if you want the cabinet door edges beveled that requires a custom door to begin with but I never ask for that from the maker.

Hood method.plan

Thanks Mark.  Very Clever!

32 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

Hi Kevin,   I guess I need to review my tech support case again as I thought they were able to get that issue resolved but must have broken it again.   I completely understand your frustration. 

Hey Chop - I didn't realize this was already a known issue.

2 hours ago, SNestor said:

 

Yea....I see the problem you are having. Can't say I have a solution...seems to me it could be something related to the bounding box of the symbol...but I'm just guessing.

Does it have to be perfect?  You are talking about 1/32" or so...

 

It looks pretty good to me...

 

Steve - you're right.  It does look good enough for the 3D, but I need to spec this hood for the shop to include the miters.  I guess I can just fix it in a CAD detail.  Thanks again for your input!

41 minutes ago, SNestor said:

Create a Cad Detail from view...In the CDFV draw a line between the two points you want to connect...copy the line - go back to plan - paste and hold position.  You should be able to move your symbol using point to point. 

Thanks Steve - that is exactly what I described above (although not too well).  It won't move into the exact position.  The arrow in the 2nd image is pointing to this CAD line in elevation view.  Attached is a simplified .plan file.  Could it have something to do with the fact that it's a symbol that I'm trying to move?

test.zip

I'm creating a custom hood and have created a framed face from a base cabinet.  I then converted this face into a symbol and rotated it as necessary.  In an elevation view, I am attempting to place it, however, I am only able to move the symbol in 1/16" increments.  I cannot therefore get the symbol exactly where I need it (about 1/32" away).  As there is no snapping point where I need one, I created a CAD Detail from View and drew a segment from the origin point to where I need it to move.  I then copy-paste (hold position) the segment into the elevation.  I thought this would solve my problem, but it still won't let me snap exactly where I want it.  Can someone please advise me on moving an object precisely where I want it without having to adhere to the 1/16" accuracy standard?  Thanks!

21 hours ago, solver said:

 

Watch on YouTube: http://youtu.be/_WoQgmpej2o?hd=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Eric.  Very helpful!

22 hours ago, robdyck said:

They aren't too bad if the segments are edited using their coordinates as opposed to a drag-and-draw approach.

@kwhitt

And in this approach, why would you bother with a 3d molding for the entire thing? It's not being welded together offsite to be one piece! If pieces work in real, can't pieces work for you too? Draw the vertical in section view, draw the level channels in plan view. Do this all while the correct channel molding is selected in your library browser. Easy peasy.

Anyhow, I'd me more worried about waterproofing that hardwood and baseboard!

Thanks Rob.  Appreciate the feedback.  I ended up making several symbols with different miter combos.  I can now use them whenever I want from the library.  I hadn't gotten around to the floors yet!

22 hours ago, Ridge_Runner said:

Draw all three lines in plan view and convert to 3D polyline. Take a cross section toward the one you want vertical. Select the open end that needs to go vertical and move it until it is vertical. You will have to adjust to the correct height  and check your horizontal lines also to make sure they are where you want them to be. 3D polylines are just finicky!

Thanks Mike.  Yes, I suppose they take some getting used to.  

22 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

With 3D molding polylines, it's imperative that you draw and edit them in very specific views and in a very specific sequence sometimes.  Anyway, I won't go into all that here because I personally wouldn't use a 3D molding polyline for that particular scenario at all or, if I did, I would use 2 or even 3 of them.  What I would likely use myself would be some polyline solids or solids.  

Thanks Michael.  Yes, I actually created several symbols with various miter combinations.  This made it easy to snap the various parts in place.

I've got a shower enclosure that I want to trim with a metal channel – see first image.  I can draw segments 1 and 2, but run into problems when attempting to draw 3 from another elevation.  I can get a third segment started, but where it ends up is anyone’s guess.  Is this tool even designed to draw in 3 axes?  If so, what is the process by which I go about doing it?  Thanks, Kevin

2 minutes ago, Dermot said:

Yes.

That's great.  Thanks Dermot.  I overlooked that one!  Kevin

Is there a way to create a corner cabinet that has a concave radius on the inside - see attached?  Thanks!

2 hours ago, MarkMc said:

I had a go at it using the original plan you posted which has only 2 floors.

It's how I'd go at it to begin-

Copied exterior walls and windows of that room from first to second floor, used a railing wall to define the balcony area and set other room to open below... close to picture. I included  generic columns in the railing wall. If it were me I'd try to find a way to get rid of that extra little second floor. No idea where the ceiling height issues are elsewhere, sounded like you had a handle on that.

Balcony 1.plan

Thanks Mark.  I'll check out the file tonight.  Appreciate the help.

49 minutes ago, SNestor said:

@kwhitt - generally speaking you have to work from top down. 
 

 

Steve - you are correct. I am finding I can do it if I work from the second floor first. 

I am running into something else now.  I technically, have three stories in this scenario.  The middle story of which is sandwiched between the main floors one and two - see cross section attached.  The second image is a photo of the actual space.  I was thinking I would use a P-solid to create this ledge (faux floor platform) that projected out onto the first floor; however, I need to have an exterior wall onto which I can place windows.  Got any ideas?

47 minutes ago, solver said:

 

That's probably best as there is a Step Floors to Match option, (or something like that) when you build a new floor.

 

When walls don't align floor to floor, you probably need to draw in some room dividers.

 

I don't see a problem with the living room/rec room as 2nd floor floor elevations are the same for the rooms over the living room.

Too late now.  I have spent 4 or 5 hours laying out the second floor.  I am finding that I can get it to work if I switch back and forth between the levels and make changes.  As per Steve's suggestion, I am finding it easier to work on the top floor first and then go downstairs with my ceiling changes.

9 minutes ago, solver said:

 

Did you leave out some words?

 

What room are you changing?

I was looking for a general strategy on how to make this work.  I'm assuming everything needs to be aligned perfectly.  Should I have changed my ceiling heights on the first floor before building the second floor?  The first room I encountered on the second floor (the recreation room) is but one of the rooms that needs to be raised.  Attached is an image of it's position on the second floor.  It is directly over the living room.

I have a house where the first floor level has 3 different ceiling heights.  The second floor rooms have been designed at different elevations over these lower floor ceilings (first image).  When I raise the one of the rooms on the second floor, I am no longer able to change any of the ceiling heights on the first floor.  I get an message in the DBX that states "ceiling values may not be changed as the floor above this room has varying heights" (second image).  I've tried several things and am at this point without a solution.

The house is designed this way and I need to be able to present this in 3D as we've been contracted for a complete renovation of the first and second floors.  I have been extra careful to define my rooms, so that they align with the walls that define the raised portions on the lower floors.  What's the trick here?  Is it possible to have varying ceiling heights in a multiple story structure?  I'd greatly appreciate any tips.  The .plan file has been attached with my progress to date.  Thanks.

CHF_Cypress Isle_AS-BUILT_09-19-20.zip

7 minutes ago, Dermot said:

Try making the inside piece a different material.  It doesn't actually need to look different, it just needs to be assigned to a separate material.  So all you need to do is make a copy of the other material.

Thanks Dermot.  Works Great!

I need to create an isometric view of a floating shelf for the cabinet shop.  It consists of 5 parts with a hollow core.  When I create a vector view it appears as one solid piece as the mitered edge lines don't show.  Is there a way to get Chief to show all these lines?  Thanks!

On 8/14/2020 at 3:46 AM, Mark3D said:

have a look at this file i fixed a few issues with curved walls auto built roof except front porch it is a manual roof also alter roof overhang and curve wall segment roof to 14 deg as Glen spotted and i think it looks a lot cleaner

CHF_Christian 117 Lakeview Drive_08-10-20_AS-BUILT Mark.plan

Mark -thanks for taking the time to make these corrections - much appreciated.  Sorry for the delay in responding.  We've had no power for a few days and although we have a generator, it does nothing for the internet.  I'll take a look at the file tonight now that I can download.  Kevin