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On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 4:10 PM, HumbleChief said:

Simple answer - maybe. But I would rather stick things in my eyes than try and use Chief's very poor 2D tools to try and re-create the look you posted.

You can create some thing close to that using water colour Mode. But a full functionality like those would be great.

6 minutes ago, Ridge_Runner said:

I always send pr ca lines or CAD details. I guess, like Larry, just because of old habits. I usually will open the cameras I am using and when I "think" I am done I close the camera; it always ask me if I want to update the layout view. That seems to work for me. I haven't even tried the live views option - not sure of the advantage if it is so slow you can't really use it in the real world. Nice concept though/

Are you kidding sir? You are saying "one by one" as we used to do in the old days When there wasn't a blessed one click layout updating button. believe me, if you are still in the process of opening elevation/section in layout and just again spend ...Micro..../seconds waiting for plot line generation etc. I don't believe you, but if that is the way you go with it, then you are missing the very pleasing intelligent tool that was provided on X8! Just click on it and everything is up to date and in confimance with all the progress you made on the current plan. Or am I missing some thing or ... How would you know that you have finally opened your camera and didn't update plan view after closing it? Why worry trying to remember whether you are updated or not. We usually work on plan view and on the second window by watching the perspective/orthographic view. What ever it is easy for you, is great, but it is worth remembering why this tool was priorized?  As far as I can tell, it was simply not to bother about your layout update status, once you are set up. Just a one click and done. I think it is great improvement.

30 minutes ago, johnny said:

.......hoping for is some way to get the automatic features in Chief to shut down partially so that during reworks I dont run into all the "clashes" that come from Chief trying to reconnect on the fly...

Hey johnny

I agree when I simply apply contextually to my wishes with this regard, but your suggestion isn't so clear to some one else trying to help or complement the suggesion. "Automatic features" is just a general term and I would rther need to know those features that are exactly messing up your work flow, so we can agree if we are facing similar issues or some one else would disagree and prove ..may be they ate one of the poisons he likes using chief. AntY way try to put it a bit clearer and specifics.

Turning the models to a symbol and droping it on your site plan will significantly speedup. Though you can improve it some more by turning some layers off before converting it to symbol depending on the level of detail you want on your site plan. I usually turn furniture layer off for attaining a workable site plan model.

10 hours ago, JasonParsons said:

100% chief raytracing, 12 passes each, 2-7 minutes each depending on the image

Very Nice Indeed! Thanks for sharing.

Thanks Michael

Very well explained.

Yes Chopsaw,

Chop directed you to the video.

But I think Michael has also simplified this method significantly by using the symbol as window without going through all this steps I gone through. I don't know why I went through those extra steps. May be I was missing some thing, but I have done that for some reason, though I can't tell now. 

Hey Michael, is this an x9 only capability or I was missing it on x8? I am not around PC now, but I have to look back why I done that unnecessary steps in x8, or may be Michael will clear that for me before I go to PC.

Thanks

I am with Michael here, if you once detach the freeze board manually as Michael has shown, then you don't need the auto generated one, so you should select roof planes and in their dbxs you are able to remove the auto generated freeze boards for good.

6 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

..........Here arouple other options that may be worth considering depending on the situation (one of which is only possib

It's really a bit easier than it sounds.  I guess the concept of using a window has been around for quite some time but it was only recently introduced to me by The Incomparable Yusef.  He and others have used a similar method by utilizing the "Treatments" tab and by creating and attaching the object to be bent as an exterior "Millwork".  I recently realized that just setting an object to be the actual window makes it a LOT easie, 

Michael

Thank you very much. You bet!

You know know, you are man of the year really. You are grateful to the few tips we share and some of us are so bnuckle headed to appreciate the bunch of helpful tips and techniques you share every day. that is why you are circling the macro experts... I appreciate and advice those of you, who need to know more about chief plus macros and utilize their benefits. Michael is man of the year!! He and his macros are very well appreciated too. 

I am going to learn the great works from your recent posts too.

Best.

Good job. 

Gave you +1 for sharing the good works.

Chop

Is that the export window of an other programe that contains the symbols? I mean the screen shot you posted above. If so, then you have a 2d DXF and DXF only formats, and I think the later can be imported in to chief as a 3d object. 

Not sure I understand your question though.

17 hours ago, ladycoralie said:

 

Excuse me Yusuf, I'm really so think I didn't thank you but I did thank you for your help - Here it is Jan 27:
 

 

I posted that after you helped me to thank you for your help and to let you know I achieved the alignment of the stairs and got it up to the 3rd floor. so yes, thank you again.

 

I asked a further question and didn't hear from you further for about a week, about how to get rid of the curved platform that formed when I created the stairwell, so I thought you were busy or away and unable to help me. So I continued trying to figure out a way through the problem on my own. I couldn't resolve it so I thought I would ask about it again as my post was old and I thought I should maybe ask again in case someone else could help me because I hadn't heard from you. You have never disappointed me Yusuf, I just thought you were busy and my post was lost in a sea of others. So thanks again.

 

Cheers and thanks

Coralie

Really sorry!

That is my bad, I didn't look back to that thread. I was buzzy sure and the thread is buried and I was checking the forum some times in the last week but no luck to see your final response. sorry again.

I will come back to this later on and see what I can do with this one. It would be nice also, if you give some more explanation.

Best wishes And thanks for The Kind Words.

Hey Lady, didn't I help you on this in an other thread few weeks ago? What is this that you want? is English your 99th language like it is for me?... I don't think so, but what do you need here, do you mean a curved stair to the second floor only, with no access to the middle floor? Do you need to keep dragging and wrapping a single stair to 360° and more  up to 720° and all the way open down under your circular stair way, or even go up to the roof top of T.Tower?.

Of course there is a way to go with it, which ever of the above scenarios you may want to achieve. BTW, did I ever disappoint you? I think you owe me a little thanks, but there are lots of people that are always grateful to the craps we share here, so no worries! Not giving you a negative point for now.

Line weights are layer set or object dependent, there fore I think you are missing the option of being layerset dependent which determines the use of different line weights for different views of differing layersets. So if you are viewing "section set" for both plan and elevation views, then that is the only case where objects(walls, windows ...what ever) will show the same line weights! Otherwise you can set different line weights for each view in the layer set settings. Located at the bottom were you can change line weights, colour and even line types for each view independently.

Hey lady

Here is a video that will guide you to how exactly to align the stair with the curved wall. Fortunately the video also clarifies the errors you may encounter during the process by default

https://youtu.be/0-_PwHxw5s8

Lady corralie

Hope this is what you wanted.

If you have any difficulty, let me know.

New French Country 1.plan

The Idea of using middle stairs work well, but some components like stringers at wall and railings seems to have issues.

Again I remember an earlier thread I posted that worked well using two landings, the only thing you need to do is set the auto landing height "off" for the second landing and fill it manually.

U stair with with tri stairs.plan

I am thinking that the left one is your original symbol, and I can see that is exactly the apeareance I was getting. The right one must be a newly modeled one!

Johhny, I have imported from scratch and it shows two of the verticals are distorted and a kind of bleeding gaps are happening for some reason. If you have checked the sketch up file, then obviously there is some thing wrong when it gets in to chief's environment. Though I can't tell exactly why.

And if you are thinking to pick one or two issues that all of the above options can't solve. Don't forget that there is no perfect CAD Software, even if it is chief!!!

Chief do in a speed of light compared to others, when it comes to 99% of the normal construction in USA, may be 90-95% in the rest of the world. And of course, I can say it is less than one in a thousand that mostly deal with odds.

Note:- Some of you may ask me about the source of the figures in percentages above, it is just my bare judgement and I can be wrong..

7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Wow, thanks so much for posting- I'm going to play with the plan now.  This is an image of what I just figured out, which I suppose is obvious, that you can rotate a curved roof to get some interesting shapes

 

Sure you got it, keep up the good work sir. Thanks 

Hi, I got rid of the last red flag from your post, ........Lol... Humor is the best..take care.

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

It's a little hard to tell from the images, but I don't think it is quite right.  Here's a video that shows how to do it in sketchup.  I don't really want it made in SU, but it shows very clearly exactly what the shape is and how it is constructed geometrically.  You can start at 1:20, where he actually does the work 

 

It would be great that chief's solid modeling capability got improved. But I am sure you can do a lot when you get adapted to how chief do what it can do.

Here is the plan if any one wants to play with it.

Also similar topic in the past had some interesting flower house Plans, 

Here is the link to that topic 

https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/6186-roofs-and-shapes-a-short-video/?do=findComment&comment=54606

This short video and The test plans are posted in the above loink. hope that helps too

paraboloid 1.plan

12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

here are some images that might make it clearer:  http://bit.ly/2hxtJlH

I have one similar to one of the pictures in your link, but not sure exactly it is what you need. Let me know

29 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

wow, yusuf, that is very cool.  It's not actually what I want, but it is harder than what I want, so you could probably easily do what I'm describing.  As Richard said, in a hyperbolic paraboloid, all the lines are actually straight.  It forms a saddle, which is actually a practical roof shape because it's pitched.  Please see image

Well thanks, but I am not sure I am getting that geometry right, may be just I will try that one later. Any help you need with those odd geometries Ate welcome.