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Thank you! I guess I should have remember the "balloon through" from our last conversation. I still have a little corner up there to cover but I can take care of that easy enough.

I wanted that partial wall to go all the way up as it will be behind a fireplace. But I suppose I could just build it as a polyline solid. It just seems sometimes like as advanced as this program is we still have to say things like "attic walls can be frustrating" and have to find workarounds for certain things. I expect someone will eventually chime in here with a solution and it will all be so simple, but it seems like there are several points in every project where I waste a tremendous amount of time on some little things like this. Anyway, thanks. I will probably just use solids which is the answer to so many of these issues.

Ok Makes sense, I didn't see that. But still, why is that wall sticking out like that? I have tried everything including redrawing the whole thing.

I have this weird attic wall sticking out into space. I have tried redrain everything and it it still there. Funny thing is, it only shows up on a full camera or perspective full overview. When I go to perspective floor overview camera it is not there. Wall problem 2.plan

Thanks for all that. I didn't notice that little part of the roof sticking in there. But it seemed to be the ceiling height that really solved the issue. Dang, I don't think I would have figured that out.

What is wrong with this gable wall? I just want it to carry all the way across and be interior below the roof and exterior above the roof and I get this. Wall problem.plan

Thanks, I got rid of all the pdfs but I don't want to start deleting all my symbols and things. In the past I could just turn off the layers that the symbols are on and then they wouldn't take time to be rendered every time I do something in camera view. So it generates a camera view in maybe half the time now which is still way to long. Even with all the layers that the complex symbols are on turned off. I wish now I would have saved a copy in x15, I could just use that for this drawing, it has become pretty much unusable for me now. Anyway, thanks for the help. I will watch it with the PDF files in the future.

I uploaded the entire plan files here. I don't know if I did this right... https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vlNLXzGaN_jE4YLLMf7Yuop0ySral756?usp=sharing

I have a house plan that I drew over the last year or so, mostly on x15. Recently I upgraded to x16 of course and the same house plan is incredibly slow in generating elevations and camera view. It is not all that elaborate of a plan, (though to be to upload here), and it worked fine in x15. I just upgraded my machine earlier this year before the x16 upgrade and I made sure I was getting the best possible laptop so I wouldn't need to get a new one again for a few years hopefully. I went through and tried turning off layers that had high surface count objects etc and even started deleting them. Just clicking on an object in a camera or elevation view and deleting would send me into a five minute wait. Generating a full overview or an elevation from a plan takes a full 7 minutes. I don't think I have noticed it so much in other plans, this is definitely one of my bigger plans but it is certainly not anything near as large as some of what I see others designing. I know without seeing the plan, you can't see if anything is amiss but i wondered if I am missing something simple here in transitioning from 15 to 16?

Well for crying out loud. I feel stupid now. But I had to ask I just wasn't seeing it. Thanks,

I don't understand that. When I open the file and opened that structure i have Lumber in that box. I have been through that many times. I opened it just now and it is still set to lumber but the cross section shows I-joists. Even when I open the plan from the file here that I uploaded, it still shows I have Lumber in that box, not I-joist.

I can't figure this out, why the floor joists in the entry foyer on this cabin are I-joists? I have had this happen in other plans too and just can't figure it out. I have my defaults changed to 2x8 framing and the room itself I changed to 2x8 framing but nothing changes it when i go to a crass section. What am I missing here? Floor joist issue.plan

This is a fairly common occurrence where my OSB sheathing appears to be showing through my standing seam metal roofing when in physically based mode. Any thoughts on this? Thanks garage.plan

Thanks Eric, It was really helpful, (and fun), to watch how you worked through that.

Thanks guys, just moving the baselines out to the outer edge didn't do it on my plan, the protrusion was still there but much less visible. But I looked at your plan Mark and it seemed to work so... Cutting the wall and making the gable section into a gable wall fixed it for me. I never understood what the gable wall or hip wall types do, they have never really seemed to make a difference when I have played with them in the past so I didn't even think of trying those. I also never paid attention to where the baseline is located, interior or exterior of the wall. I will pay attention to this going forward. Thanks for diving into this and helping me out.

OK, I am back here again with the same problem recreated as I moved through this project. I was watching it this time and it occurred when I changed the 2nd floor room to "open below" and it goes away when I change the upper room back to "unspecified" I want the main floor room to have a vaulted ceiling. I derived the second floor plan from the first floor plan and then sectioned it off using room divider. Then I went back to the areas where I wanted the vaulted ceiling on the first floor, went to the 2nd floor rooms and changed to "open below". Everything is good except this one spot. Roof wall issue.plan

Yes, I did that. The most recent is at least an hour before my issue. I check preferences and I have it set at 5 minutes. I think it had something to do with uploading the plan here, I don't now. Doesn't matter now. I will start a new day and move on.

I don't understand, I have always had my auto-save set at every 5 minutes. I have at least an hour of work that is not in any of the auto archived plan files.

Wow, this is really a bummer. I saved the file and closed it and sent it. Now when I went to open it, I get the file you are showing. Which means i just lost a crap ton of work. I can't find anything in the archives newer than that either.

Here is another one. I just started this clean, i don't know what would be making this happen on one side of this roof and not the other. As built start over 3.20.24.plan

OK but say I have a bunch of wall drawn and I now I change the default, it would seem like there would be some way to select the wall and then change it so that it now takes on the properties of the default settings? This seems like it would be a pretty basic function.

It seems I can take a railing that I have made, and make it so the default settings will be that of that railing, but how do I make a railing change to poses the current defaults? Some things change automatically when you change the defaults but apparently railings do not. It seems like I should be able to click on the railing and tell it to change so that it will be the railing type that I have set in the defaults.

Thanks for the answer. I tried that whole zip thing and couldn't get it to work. So it seems like the easiest answer is to forget about using SKM files and just look for jpegs for my textures etc. Thank you

I have been searching and can't seem to find any information on working with SKM files. I use 3dwarehouse a lot and it is great for the SKP files but if I want to use some of their texture files I am not able to import them to a new material in Chief. I don't have sketchup so going back to that to convert them is not an option.

Thanks, that does help. The thing is, I never drew any extra walls or anything like that. It's hard to know if a drawings has somehow gotten uncleaned up. When I tried to pull that wall back like you suggested, it didn't let me. The wall just kept generating. But I think when I went to a camera view and clicked on that section and deleted it and the rest seems to stay, I was basically accidentally doing the same thing you were saying to do. Here is another puzzle that I assume is related to these walls somehow having become "unclean": Both these roofs have boxed eves but I can't get the one side to build that way. I deleted it and mirror copied to correct one over and it is still the same and the one with the correct boxed in eve the gable frieze board doesn't go all the way down. I think it is like this in that plan I uploaded earlier. So when you say you keep plans "clean", well is there a way to know they are "dirty"? As far as I know I didn't draw any extra walls or don anything unclean. I knew it had something to do with those walls and I was fiddling with them trying to get the siding to not protrude so at that point I may have done something that dirtied it up but the problem existed before that. How did you go about analyzing the problem?