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    freehand drawing on screen for collaboration?

    in General Q & A

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    Hi David,

    I did a search for your question on the web and found out that Windows 10 has a feature called "Windows Ink Workspace" built right in!

    I do see your sig says you are still on Windows 8, is this correct? If so there is another option a small program called "Zoomit"

    There are several program options out there.

     

    CA Stress Testing Results

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    25 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

    Really starting to have a disdain for this thread though I have tried to avoid voicing too much of my own opinion..a lot of hard work has gone into this thread, which I appreciate...

     

    This has not been standardized testing.

    No real methods of testing have been established.

    No specialized software has been implemented for monitoring the tests.

    NO COMPUTER COMPONENTS HAVE TRULY BEEN ISOLATED...No one here is using a test bench with the same components and swapping out one hardware component.

    The tests have only demonstrated a couple of scenarios that are completely unrealistic for nearly every CA user.

     

    Testing based on bias will always have a higher probability of supporting the bias. Why are we doing known CPU intensive tasks and being surprised by the results?

    Load in 4k textures on a PBR and tell me how great your CPU is or go swap in a laptop 5400 RPM for your NVME and try browsing the library with your awesome CPU.

    Excuse the sarcasm but by no means has this been an indicator of a singular system component being the biggest bang for the buck. I've said it so many times I can't even count, All 5 of the machines I have used extensively have performed as well as the next in real world use with little to no noticeable difference, which includes a gamut of various clock speeds and core configurations both AMD and Intel. Spending $2K on a CPU is not going to make CA feel 10 times faster than spending $200. 

    This post by @BrownTiger got brushed over and no one really responded to it which blows my mind, again we're discussing some industry known topics here:

     

    Not meaning to sound like a jerk but this thread does not paint the whole picture of using this software and it is painfully obvious to me and misleading to people out there shopping components.

    Hi Rene

    I did read Brown Tigers reply and it sounded like a very professional inspection of whats going on. ( Thank you Brown Tiger!)  My system was built 1-2012 so I will need to upgrade the whole thing in the near future. I have been watching your threads about ram disk and the nvme drives. I cant wait to get that newer hardware. :)

    CA Stress Testing Results

    in General Q & A

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    41 minutes ago, TheKitchenAbode said:

     

    That's due to the fill I used, if you open up the object and reduce the fill spacing from say my 1/16' to say 1/4' you will see a significant improvement in performance. That fill creates a crazy number of vector lines that must be recalculated when scaling up and down when zooming.

    Thank you Graham, now I get it.

    CA Stress Testing Results

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    I agree with your statement Graham, I upgraded my gpu recently from a gtx960 4gig saw very little improvement. Was disappointed for the amount of money I spent.

    Also when I ran my test all I had open was task manager and fire fox window for email and the forum. Also Bit defender security software.

     

     

    CA Stress Testing Results

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    added cpu info

    On 5/11/2019 at 3:34 PM, TheKitchenAbode said:

    Here is another stress test model. This one looks at the effect of very high surface counts. The model contains 5,000 BBQ symbols for a total surface count of just under 19 million. The test here is a simple one.

     

    1.) Open Plan.

    2.) Open Camera View, Record Time to Display.

     

    The results may surprise you.

     

    This one should be of greatest interest to those with high core count processors as the processing here is fully threaded.

     

    My 4 core/8 thread 6700K displays in 34 seconds.

     

    The rule in respect to core/thread performance is in general, to reduce the time by half you need double the cores. Theoretically to drop my 38 seconds to 19 seconds will require 16 cores that can run at my 4.1 Ghz rate. To get this down to 8 seconds would require 32 cores, 4 seconds 64 cores, 2 seconds 128 cores and to 1 second 256 cores.

     

    BBQ Parade.plan

     

    1:57 min WOW

    100% CPU

    CA Stress Testing Results

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    On 5/11/2019 at 10:44 AM, TheKitchenAbode said:

    Here's a different stress test model. This one allows you to explore more typical CA functions related to walls, roofs, windows and doors. It should not bog down anyone's system but will run slower so you can see what's going on. Suggest having Task Manger open on the process tab so you can see what component does what at what time. At the bottom of task manger there is a digital clock so you can time your operations.

     

    1.) Open Plan.

    2.) Open Task Manger, Select Process Tab, Select Options "Always on Top".

    2.) Open Standard Camera View, Record Time to Open.

    3.) Zoom in on one of the Houses. Should be no problem.

    4.) Click on a Wall Surface and Drag up Top Edge up. Record Time to Complete Task.

    5.) Hit Undo, Record time to complete task.

    6.) Zoom out to see all houses.

    7.) Select Build, Roof, Build Roof, Roof, Build Roof Planes, Record Time to Complete Task.

     

    What to watch for.

     

    1.) The "3D Rebuild" pop up.

    2.) In Task Manager Observe the activity levels of the CPU, GPU and Disk Drive, When They are Active and When are Not During the Processing.

    3.) Depending on What you do Notice That the full 3D Rebuild only Occurs for Certain Changes.

     

    My Results (Alien X51 R3)

     

    1.) Open Standard Camera View = 18 seconds.

    2.) Drag Wall Surface up = 22 seconds.

    3.) Undo Drag Wall Surface up = 22 seconds.

    4.) Build Roof Planes = 35 seconds.

     

    Parade of Homes 400.plan

    1. 35sec.

    2. 36sec

    3.37sec.

    4. 1:00 min.

    my computer spec is old, but over clocked to boost to 4ghz. I was seeing 3.98ghz gpu rate.

    CA Stress Testing Results

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    On 5/7/2019 at 10:18 AM, HumbleChief said:

    No, my computer hangs for as little as 8 and as much as 17 seconds on a simple zoom via mouse wheel. 13 seconds to simply select the slab. 14 seconds to move an edge. I would say unusable with my system. ...and 12 seconds to simply close the file...That thing is evil and I've deleted it off my system just in case it will wake me in the middle of the night....

    Thank you Graham for starting this thread! It will finally put a sequence of importance in hardware upgrades.

    I just tested this and am amazed at the slowness I am experiencing from such a simple plan. Im getting times like you Larry

    following :)

    CA reporting same heights for roof planes obviously not

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    Hi Rockne

    Its not a glitch, the line is the base line that tells you where the roof plane origin is sitting. Notice the one on the left is not sitting on the wall.

    It would make it alot easier to work with the program if you use some color for the selection and handle fill. Its in preferences 

    Also what are your computer specs and version of chief? put that in your signature please

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