Rich_Winsor

...BTW......  I think the Padres might be pretty good this year.....  I think we have 6 all stars on the roster...... World Series,,,,  here we come!!!

Could be. This is the off year for the Giants.

Did you hear the conspiracy theory that the

'Hawks didn't give Lynch the ball because

the organization wanted anyone but Lynch

to be the hero?

Thanks for your answer Rich. To me still not doable in Chief without trouble. Any of those kinds of jobs coming my way, I'll take a pass.

Ditto.............

Doing the un-doable (or at least giving

it a shot) is what I'm all about.

Along with thinking the unthinkable. 

I'm sure you guys have been down these

roads before so humor me as I beat my

head against some of these barriers.

Here is what I came up with by putting

openings into the wall before making it

a symbol. You've gotta look on the bright

side. If you don't open the door past 90°

it will shut automatically.

I believe the present ratio for a day (24 hour period?)

is 1 negative vote and 10 positive votes. Don't know

how the day vs. 24 hours is determined.

I have not really been around long enough to know

how it was in the "good old days" but it does seem to

me that the tone of the forum has changed recently

from one of problem specific solutions to one of

complaining (for lack of a better word) about the

perceived shortcomings of the software. As I have

said before the software is what it is and perspective

users would be better served by learning to use it in

it's current configuration than wishing it was more

like some other software program.

But don't despair. I have had a sneak peak into a

brand new one click interface Chief is working on.

Just click on the icon on the startup screen and the

software will read your mind and create a complete

set of detailed construction documents. 

What are those symbols in your avatar?

They seem to be relics from the dark ages.

Hey guys, it was a late night and I burned a lot of brain cells

working on this one. Remember when Antoine stopped the

show and insisted that you try to tilt the origin logo out of 

plumb? That's basically what I did with a wall. First I just

drew a straight section of exterior wall (I chose Stucco6

because I wasn't man enough to deal with the problems

presented by horizontal siding). Then while in 3D view I

converted the wall section to a symbol. I placed a copy of

the symbol into the plan view and using the Symbol

Specification dbx I rotated the wall section symbol 5° out

of vertical/plumb. Then once again while in 3d view I

created a new symbol out of the previous symbol. I now

have a symbol of a section of battered wall that is tilting 

out 5° at the top. That was the easy part. Then I put a

copy of the tilted wall symbol into a fresh plan view and

tried to coerce it into behaving enough to get the results

you see. As you all have correctly surmised there are

some interesting issues to be dealt with not the least of

which is the fact that regular walls don't recognize and

interact with symbols of walls. I placed invisible walls on

top of the battered wall symbols to form a room but then

the floor and subfloor of the room wanted to extend out

beyond the bottom of the walls to be in line with the ceiling.

Rather than mess around with that I just removed the floor

and used a Polyline Solid for the floor. As Perry pointed

out putting openings into the wall symbols turns out to be

a bit more problematic. I was hoping somebody might

have a solution for that. The wall symbol won't accept

doors or windows and it doesn't show up at all in framing.

Plan B is to try putting the openings into the wall section

before turning it into a symbol and see how that responds

but I haven't had a chance to play around with that. This

was a banzai attack with no turning back to get these

results. When I regain my strength I will try to refine the

approach. Attached is an Interior vector view. All in all it's

pretty clean. Moldings are another thing that don't respond

to symbols of walls but I didn't want to take the time to do

them manually. I guess the $64,000 question is can a wall

symbol be made to act like an actual wall with all it's

attributes? 

I can draw sloped/tilted walls. This is dedicated

to Antoine. He gave me the inspiration during the

symbols workshop.

What Bill said. That will get you back the missing

section of ridge cap. To get rid of the gap in the

gable fascia board you need to adjust the Fascia

top heights and Ridge top heights for the two taller

roof planes.

I think you are going to have to attach the plan

for this one. The only way I can approximate

that condition is by turning off "Walls, Normal"

in Display Options. Are you sure that box is

checked in the 3D view you are using.

Yeah, but you guys are all screwed up down

there to start with. You can't even get the water

to go down your drains in the right direction. 

I'm with Joe on this one, smaller dimension first.

Sweet, I like it!

Not sure exactly what you are after.

This is what I came up with.

It would be nice to place a filter over a texture that could effect the way light is refracted/reflected such as in brushed stainless steel.

Todd, if you have the time check out this training video.

It's long (over an hour) but does a good job of showing

how to manipulate surface characteristics of various

materials.

Ray Tracing Tips and Techniques

I don't know how Chief handles these things but last

year I took a year off from renewing my Solidworks

seat. The Solidworks equivalent of Chief's SSA runs

close to $1600 a year. When I looked into reviving

my subscription they were happy to waive the

arbitrarily imposed $500 penalty for letting my seat

expire and reinstate me like I had never left. Maybe

you can just take a year off from Chief also.

As you can probably tell by now I have been amusing

myself by having a play with tessellations and applying

them as materials. I really like the way this particular

one wraps the corners of the building. I can see this as

a mosaic in Morocco or perhaps Santorini.

Yes you did and it was duly noted, but does that

call for the shameless self-aggrandizement.

What the hey, if we don't stand up for ourselves

who will?

roof pitch on your porch is 8/12 drawing shows 6/12 , which is room for your corbels....

 

and I see 3 windows

You talking to me Mick? I didn't open any of the

plans, I just referred to the PDF Steve supplied  

in the post previous to mine and used that roof

pitch and the 3 windows that were shown.

Well...that's it exactly.  So...how do I accomplish this?  

Maybe it is simple?

Steve, sorry I couldn't get back sooner. It looks

like you are getting it under control. I still like my

approach which is similar to Bill's. Draw the bump 

out as a skinny little room and adjust the floor

height of the room to suit your purpose. Punch a

hole in the interior section of the wall with a pass

thru window. I left the room as unspecified. You

can now add whatever window configuration you

like as well as control the other materials in the

room. The floor material becomes the material on

the top surface of the bump out ledge/shelf. All in

all it gives a nice clean look without any annoying

and unwanted artifacts.

Here is my take loosely based on your PDF image.

I just built the boxed window as a room attached to

the side of the wall. That way you can add whatever

window configuration you like.

P.S. How do you get the images to show larger than the thumbnails?

Alan, one way is through Photobucket. If you don't

mind navigating through some adds and popups the

free version will let you upload your images to your

own "bucket". From there you can select the image

and the following screen will let you create links to

the image. For the forum I use the bottom one. Just

click on it and it will copy the link, then when in the

forum you hit the Paste Icon and the link is pasted

into your post (the image won't show until you hit

preview post or add reply buttons).

Well said Yusuf.

I too have been inspired by resourceful users such as

Bill and yourself. The way I see it there are grinders like

Edison and there are visionaries like Tesla. I think the

same is true of Chief users. I often think the people who

come on here and bemoan the perceived shortcomings

of the software would be better served by applying the

same zeal to finding creative approaches to solving their

problems. Then when the existing bugs do get ironed out

they will be perfectly positioned to get the most out of the

program. I gave you a gold star for that post.   

Sounds to me like you are being penny wise and

pound foolish. If using Chief is costing you so much

you should just bite the bullet and purchase that

"other CAD program" that you seem to think will

solve all your problems.

Here  is my take on the sandwich board.

Same as Larry with some curves and artwork.

 

http://screencast.com/t/QAMUySH5n7BI

 

Very informative video Glenn but there seems to be a

problem with the audio. Your voice sounds funny. 

I've missed you darlin'.    Been spread too thin

to cover both forums lately. Glad to see that you're

alive and kickin' and still showing the boys how

things should be done.

So.... a couple of cheesy 3D Warehouse birds didn't  

do it for anybody (why am I constantly disappointed

with their content?). I thought the Chief generated 

power lines were pretty effective.

Well then, try this one on for size. A tribute to the 

Monty Python boys that I call "The doors are always

open at the Department of Redundancy Department.".