Closed and Open stacked stairwells -How to build?

[gravattedesign]

I have an As-Built condition to model with 3 levels of stairs from a basement up to a third floor. Basement stairs and Third floor stairs have walls on one side that follow the bottom of the stair and are framed to the floor above. The middle stair, first to second floor has a unique railing condition that becomes a guardrail at the second floor and returns to a partial  wall section of the 3rd floor stairs.

The challenges are:

1. How to have a wall follow the stringers of the stairs

2.Working with Stairwell opening, an offset Guardrail and then an upper stair wall all in the same plane.

 

Link to Plan file:26-0227-Cardinal Drive-AS Built

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ngiW0zi6yUoquYokP48v3BSRt5AAy78L/view?usp=sharing

 

Thank you for any Feed back.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by gravattedesign
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[JKEdmo]

1 hour ago, gravattedesign said:

I have an As-Built condition to model with 3 levels of stairs from a basement up to a third floor. Basement stairs and Third floor stairs have walls on one side that follow the bottom of the stair and are framed to the floor above. The middle stair, first to second floor has a unique railing condition that becomes a guardrail at the second floor and returns to a partial  wall section of the 3rd floor stairs.

The challenges are:

1. How to have a wall follow the stringers of the stairs

2.Working with Stairwell opening, an offset Guardrail and then an upper stair wall all in the same plane.

 

Link to Plan file:26-0227-Cardinal Drive-AS Built

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ngiW0zi6yUoquYokP48v3BSRt5AAy78L/view?usp=sharing

 

Thank you for any Feed back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you looked at Chief's stair tutorial videos?

 

For instance:

 

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/390/stair-wall-options-partial-railing-wall-under-stairs-stairwell.html?playlist=89

 

 

[SNestor]

Steve,

For the walls where the bottom follows the stairs you can attempt to break the wall and shape it...but, this can be a PIA. I usually just fill that triangle space using a solid. 

Sometimes a ceiling plane carefully placed can work...but again, this is time consuming and a PIA. I usually just place a solid for the underside of the stair drawn using the backclipped cross section camera.

 

Don't get me started on the stair tool...

 

[gravattedesign]

SNestor and JKEdmo-

 

Thank you both for the quick response and your suggestions.

 

JKE: I have watch most, if not all, of the stair tutorials and not found a solution/work around for the condition I described. The challenge of trimming the bottom of a stair wall to follow the stringers doesn't appear to be an option other than manually breaking the wall at the bottom, pulling a handle up and "eyeballing" the slope of the stringers. 

 

SNestor: I follow what you mean... remove the CA wall of the enclosed stair from the equation with a 3D solid. I can see that this would remove some conflict with railing and Guardrails at the second floor open stair run. The Basement Stair is less complicated with this approach...with exception in defining the "Stairwell opening" to that side of the partial wall bottom where a 3D solid is used and doesn't have room defining properties...I'll experiment and report back.

 

Again, my gratitude gentlemen