ThomasR89 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Hi guys. I'm very to the software and am completely self-learning. I'm designing a house now but am looking to create a barrel exterior roof that rises into the hip about 5 feet in a specific part of the plan but for the life of me I cannot get it right. Not to mention how truly messed up the "Auto roof" has left. And since I haven't learned that part yet I was hoping you guys might be able to give me some insight. Here is what I'm looking for. And here is where I would like it in this plan. I'm going to attach the plan here. Could anyone help me out? Sincerely, Confused In Carolina Carr1.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 @ThomasR89 - I gave it a shot; roof is about 90% auto. Plan attached; Carr1 - Steve Edits.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasR89 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Wow! I can't thank you enough. That is pretty much exactly What I was looking for. Though I would like it to be a couple feet taller. Would you mind telling me how you managed it? And again, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasR89 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 I have X13 and am unable to open the .plan file... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, ThomasR89 said: Wow! I can't thank you enough. That is pretty much exactly What I was looking for. Though I would like it to be a couple feet taller. Would you mind telling me how you managed it? And again, thank you very much. Too many things to explain...but, I set the roof default to 8/12. Then opened the walls that required 12/12 and set the pitch. The one key thing to do is in "roof defaults" make sure you select "same height eaves"....and uncheck "same roof height at exterior walls". I manually fixed the roof over the main entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Oh...yea, you need to put your signature in the forum. Everything I did to your roof can be accomplished in X13. Nothing is unique in X15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasR89 Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 19 hours ago, SNestor said: Oh...yea, you need to put your signature in the forum. What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, ThomasR89 said: What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasR89 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 I updated to X15 so I could view the file, But in making some layout changes I have managed to mess the roof up completely. I have spent time watching YouTube videos looking for an answer but it just seems I'm having trouble. Anyone have any idea whats going on? I'm just trying to create a good 12/12 hip roof all around, saving for the few places I want a specific look... And also I have no idea how to make those wood strips at the front into brick. Its so frustrating to not be able to get this right. I would truly appreciate any help. Carr2.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Thomas - Have you watched the "roof basics" series of videos in the Chief Training Videos: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/5447/roof-basics.html?playlist=95 Good place to start. You are working on a difficult roof for someone just starting to work with Chief. You might want to create a new plan...and just practice the basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, ThomasR89 said: I would truly appreciate any help. you didn't accidently auto build the Roofs at 0/12 or some other really low pitch instead of 12/12 did you? *** Having now looked at your plan the above is exactly what you've done , Chief resets this to 1/4" to ensure some slope being a Roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Other Issues The "Wood Strips" you see are not your fault, Chief for some reason is auto-building those 3 roof planes 1/2 way through the wall , which destroys that brick work, they need to be pulled back out of the wall. there are also some reversed walls , ie showing the drywall on the outside click the wall and then on the reversing tool on the edit toolbar It is unlikely that on a roof this complex that Chief will ever auto build it completely as desired, there is no point fight it, and getting totally frustrated, as at some point you will need to go manual anyway. I always go Auto 1st , which gets me the basics in the 65% to 90% range and then finish it manually as needed. Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasR89 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 Hey Kbird1, Thank you for reaching out. I appreciate it so much. I'm trying to work my through everyone's instructions. And here's where I am so far. I got the walls right, I made the roof on the little dining pop-out smaller, as it was too big. I also gave the floor plan one final edit to make a bigger closet. I still want the barrel roof above that tall window but I've tried a few different methods and each one comes with problems, none are correct. The roof is still not right, though the pitch is. And I'm going to include another pic here but its from an edit animation so its light. But essentially I would like to inward game room windows to rise up into the roof too and the top row to follow that shape. If anyone can help me out with some instructions that would be amazing, perhaps then I can move onto the second floor and the staircase as I know I'll struggle there too. Though I am excited to learn! Carr2 - Copy.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 One other thing I noticed was that you have Spray Canned the Brick on your exterior Walls, a common new User mistake as while it looks like a brick wall, all you have really done is change the 3/4" Siding to a 3/4" layer of Brick and thus structurally etc it is not correct, ie Brick is about 3" thick. You should Set you default exterior Wall to the Correct Brick WallType eg Brick 6 and then change/Force each of the exterior walls to use the correct Walltype and material if needed. more info here : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, ThomasR89 said: Hey Kbird1, Thank you for reaching out. I appreciate it so much. 1. I'm trying to work my through everyone's instructions. And here's where I am so far. I got the walls right, I made the roof on the little dining pop-out smaller, as it was too big. I also gave the floor plan one final edit to make a bigger closet. 2. I still want the barrel roof above that tall window but I've tried a few different methods and each one comes with problems, none are correct. The roof is still not right, though the pitch is. 3, And I'm going to include another pic here but its from an edit animation so its light. But essentially I would like to inward game room windows to rise up into the roof too and the top row to follow that shape. 1. You could leave that roof off and just let the walls continue up under the Overhang above 2. Barrel Roofs are Tricky , have a look at this for tips.......... ( the KB has many good short tutorials ) but in this case I'd use 2 roof planes , 1 for each half of the Barrel. https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00649/creating-a-curved-barrel-roof.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00684/joining-a-barrel-roof-to-a-flat-roof-plane.html https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00688/joining-curved-roof-planes.html and https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/746/drawing-curved-and-barrel-roofs.html?playlist=95 https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/709/compound-curved-roof.html?playlist=95 3. you want the roof to curve inward like the window wall? I thought the the current roof looked good myself and option might be a Barrel there too ( better weather protection) to match the Dining Room one. Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasR89 Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share Posted July 3, 2023 Thank you. I will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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