MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Is there a way to import, or convert, or add to library- as a cabinet filler? I'm running into a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 can't you just make one from a cabinet and add it to a library? Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm trying to find a way to have more manageable fluted fillers. I find millwork difficult-doesn't like to be selected and doesn't generate a counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Mark, I need to do a bit of searching in the Library. It seems to me there are a lot of them. Can you explain a bit more what you are looking for? Some of the millwork symbols could probably be used to define fillers as "Cabinets". The process is a bit convoluted though because you have to export to 3DS and then import back into Chief in order to define it as a "Cabinet". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 All the fluted "fillers" I can find are pilasters, category and layer millwork. I'd like: -to have a standard fluted filler (actually a few) just as I would order- 3/4" thick to go between cabinets. -it to have a countertop. -control over the toe kick height and depth so I can also use fluted extended stiles with flutes. -it to be dealt with as a cabinet by locate objects in dimensions. In a perfect world I'd also like to find an easy way to flute the face of a clipped corner without adding dimensions to it. In the past I have tried making a very thin filler to use as a pilaster under accessories- works so so but throws of dimensions. On a side note- I just noticed that the specify origin option is gone from symbol import. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Mark, I took a Millwork Pilaster from the Library, set a Stretch Plane at y = -1/4", modified the depth to 24", exported to 3DS and imported back in as a Cabinet. This is the result. Is this what you are looking for? It acts just like a base cabinet but the width, height and depth are fixed. If you want different sizes you would have to do the above for each size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Exactly all dimensions are fixed and no toe kick height. I'd tried 3ds out and in a few times before posting. One of the ones I brought in causes error messages in x7 when moved, so deleted that and brought it in as millwork without a problem. That one was 3/4" deep, made from solids, I needed a 2" with different flutes than what is available. I was hoping that there would be an option for "filler" and that might give me what I need. This is one of those jobs I miss 2020- lot of flutes, lot of integrated end panels- at least it doesn't have clipped corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm not just being prissy about the size Joe. The plan has a dozen of these in 3 sizes, client wants to see options so the sizes are subject to change. It is also being done in two cabinet lines- one with 4" toe the other with 4-1/2". When done as mill work it is possible to resize cabinets so they overlap the fluted object leading to size mistakes which is why I embarked on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Mark, Have you considered converting a pilaster to a "Cabinet Door" symbol? Then you can use just a plain cabinet with a drawer and assign the "Cabinet Door" from the Library. That will allow full use of all the Cabinet adjustments but still give you the filler you want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Great idea Joe. Just tried a 2" cabinet with 0" reveals, thought I used to get 1/16" reveal no matter what but it worked. I'd given up and made the first set in the hopes of few changes. Now just have to bring them in as doors, your a life saver, thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Just thinking outside the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Spoke too soon. Flutes don't show up until the size is too large to be useful. Tried a few different setttings, planes, reveals. I can't get it. Fluted door.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Sometimes they put barbed wire outside just in case the natives get restless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Mark, There's nothing in your zipped file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 Re uploaded, not sure why it was zero bytes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 OK, anyway it seems that a cabinet less than 6" wide can't have any drawers or doors. I can however place a freestanding door and size it independently. Not what you're looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Does using the millwork symbol not work for you in the accessory tab of the cabinet dbx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 No that isn't it. When those work they are the same depth as the door- a fluted filler attaches to the cabinet box at the stile as in the pic. Also, as in your picture it alters the other side of the cabinet. I've tried making really shallow ones for fluted clipped corners in the past but they don't work either. (Right now none I try are showing at all but not worrying about that- Just about never use the accessory options since it never does what I need.) Thanks for trying, will just tough it out. Too bad.thought I finally had a fix for this- there are a number of variations where this comes up and have had a run of them in the last year. The good news is that I have a couple of special fluted symbols I didn't have, thanks to your boolean operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Mark, In your user Library, open the Fluted Filler and set the y origin to 1/2". Then use that as your accessory Pilaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Only works for the one place that I can put fillers on a single cabinet. I might be able to use the new split cabinet tool but I'm not going there. I tested that on other parts of this job and do not like it. Have had an easier to use version of that available in 2020 for years and rarely use it. I'll bet the marketing boys love it though. Thanks again Joe. I'm almost done with all this now anyway...now the design committee will change it all again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Mark, I posted a suggestion for narrow cabinet fronts. You might want to reinforce that in the suggestions forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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