timmy123 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Hi, My dimensions and labels are on top of each other in layout, while in plan they look good. Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong? Check images.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 My best guess is that you have rotated the plan in layout (by rotating the Layout Box) and have the Rotate With Plan checked for the text. Better to rotate the plan in plan view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy123 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 hi glen, thanks that is correct. But how can I rotate in plan view? I did edit area all floors, CTRL-A, but rotate under transform is greyed out. I also want the terrain to rotate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Timmy, I strongly advise you to NOT use Rotate Plan View as Rich indicates as it will only cause you more problems. That command rotates the view OK, BUT, it also rotates the whole co-ordinate system. ie, it rotates the "drawing board". Use it and have a play to see the results, but do not use it to rotate your plan. You should be able to use Edit Area (All Floors)...Transform/Replicate...Rotate. I don't know what Ctrl-A is as I have my own shortcuts. Or, once you use Edit Area (All Floors), and then selected everything (including the terrain) with a marque, you should be able to grab the the rotate handle and rotate the whole lot with the mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Well see, there you go. I knew it was a trick question. Why on earth would anybody use the "Rotate Plan View" tool to rotate the plan view? BTW, I strongly advise not using my suggestions too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Rich, Notice that the tool is called Rotate Plan VIEW, not Rotate Plan. ...the help file is quite clear: To rotate everything in floor plan view, including all objects on all floors, the Snap and Reference Grids, the plan’s Cartesian coordinates, and the drawing sheet, select Tools> Rotate Plan View to open the Rotate Plan View dialog. and The Rotate Plan View tool does not rotate objects; it literally rotates your view of those objects. As a result, it does not alter the orientation of the plan in layout views or on the printed page. If that is really what you want to do then go ahead and use that command. I was just trying to warn Timmy of some of the consequences of using that command. I have posted before that I believe that command should be deleted from the program (although there was once a user that said they used it), or at least a warning during it's use of the consequences of using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I was just messin' with ya Glen. I suspected there was more to it which is why I put a question mark after my original reply. The OP mentioned that he wanted to rotate the plan and the terrain and the tool in question does do that. Actually I may be the second person to have actually used the tool. I used it to rotate a long skinny site plan 90° so it would fit the shape of my monitor. So far the only drawback I have noticed is that I have had to rotate my sun angle 90° also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Rich, The sun angle is the easy one. Your whole co-ordinate system will be messed up. +x will be up the screen (12 o'clock, instead of 3 o'clock) and +y will be at 9 o'clock (instead of 12 o'clock). Try it. This can get really confusing when using co-ordinates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I don't know Glenn, the messed up orientation doesn't seem to be a problem for me. Maybe the cat is trying to tell me something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Rich, That picture would make the perfect icon for the Rotate Plan View tool - it describes the tool perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy123 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Hi Glen and Rich, Thanks for your replies. I tried the way Rich suggested using rotate plan view, but now the labels are overlapping in plan view...as well as layout. I used Glens method and it fixed the labels in plan view as well as layout! but the problem is I cannot rotate all the layers. For some reason in plan view I am able to rotate the plan but not the exterior parking etc.. I am thinking if some layer is locked or not editable? I am attaching the plan please see if you can spot the problem. I am trying to rotate everything counter clockwise 90 degrees. home_6_6_2014_d_fazal_56Layout.layout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 You have posted the .layout file. You need to post the .plan file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmy123 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 Hi Glen, Thanks a lot. I had posted the wrong file here is the link to the plan file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0_-X_Oc8QXtbXVnV1JNWmlTNms/view?usp=sharing Happy Holidays.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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