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Turn that off. When it's on CA has to recalculate the shadow projections every time you move or change the model. The camera features I mentioned are really only need if you are preparing final renderings. Personally when working on primary structure I find all of these added effects distracting and tend to draw ones focus away from more important aspects. Not really very efficient to be focused on a particular shingle when the physical roof structure is not yet complete.
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Steve - Not sure you saw the Thread from Rene "SLOWWW plan file suddenly" posted yesterday. Worth taking a look at as it's a great example of how just one or two elements in a plan can bring even the best of system to it's knees. Really important to keep this in mind when ones system starts to slow down. Also, as mentioned before camera settings can have a significant impact on performance, when working on basic model structure I never have lights, reflections, bloom, shadows or sun follows camera turned on. Makes a big difference.
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No problem. Even though the RTX 3000 series is not currently available, suggest moving up one level from the RTX 2060. Your new CPU will at times bottleneck the RTX 2060 one level up should prevent this and provide an improved CPU/GPU balance. Regardless, you will definitely notice a big difference. Cheers, Graham
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My suggestion at this time would be to wait a month or two. NVidia is just releasing their RTX 3000 series cards, these offer at least a 30% or more performance improvement over the RTX 2000 series and are expected to be priced under the RTX 2000 series, seems like a win win situation, better performance at a lower cost. CPU looks good, alternative might be the I9 9900K. I would suggest you strongly consider a liquid cooler. To get the most out of those CPU's you will want to overclock them so they will run constantly at their higher frequency across all cores. A liquid cooler will do a better job of keeping temperatures in line to prevent the CPU from throttling down. 32 GB or RAM is more than sufficient, overkill for Chief but you may have other programs that might benefit from this. Regardless, as RAM is so cheap why not go for a bit more. MNVe drive looks good, might consider the Pro series for a bit more throughput. There are some faster ones that use PCle 4.0 but I believe that at this time only AMD CPU's & motherboards support this. I know there can be some satisfaction in building your own but why not consider say a Dell Alienware Aurora. These are solid machines and when tested/reviewed they are always in the top tier. They do a good job of matching up components to deliver consistent performance and quality, all at a very competitive price and they are always running special discounts.
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You are very welcome Rene. Fortunately your plan was not overly complicated so it was not too time consuming to narrow it down. Cheers, Graham
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The two Pantry's, bathroom vanity and shower shelf are where the problem is. Once I deleted them the plan runs as I would expect on my Spectra 360. On your system it should be fine.
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I prefer OneDrive myself as it is fully integrated into the windows operating system. It's always been fast and reliable.
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Seems to be a few more items, bathroom vanity and a shelf unit in the shower. As I delete these items things keep getting faster.
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Rene - it looks like a cabinet you have with a fancy door system, does the material GOODWOOD RESAWN OAK -TURNED make sense. Something wrong there.
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Rene - Runs fine on my Spectra 360, just kidding. Yes it does run slow. Did a quick look and it's somewhere in the interior finishing elements, furniture, cabinets, etc. If I turn those display layers off it runs fine. Might be a model or a very high resolution texture. Will keep exploring if time permits.
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Great. The other program was that Audio one. Looks like you have a program called Loom running. I'd turn it off if you don't really need it as it was using almost 7% of your CPU.
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That will do, just make sure there's enough space. Most of these services only provide about 5GB free and if you need more they have paid subscriptions. I think if you could clean-up your existing system from those resource hogs you will definitely give it some more air to breath. Hey, I ran your plan on my Spectra, it's CPU is about the same as yours and I only have an integrated graphics chip and 8GB or Ram. It was not a problem and I still had my browser, email and excel running at the same time.
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That's done from within OneDrive. Just assign the CA Auto Archive folder to OneDrive and it will back it up to the cloud every time it sees a change. OneDrive is very efficient so it's unlikely you will notice a difference. Other users use Google Drive, DropBox and iCloud.
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I should have said Auto Archive and it can be set to Archive once an hour. Sorry, got mixed up with Auto Save.
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CA has that type of backup built in. You can specify how often it backs up in the Preference settings. It all takes place in the background, you won't even know it's happening. If you set it to backup say every 10 minutes then you have a set of files that are each 10 minutes apart.
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There are many other backup programs that don't use anywhere near that amount of resources. Why don't you consider using Windows OneDrive for file back-up and just let Windows Defender take care of virus control. A new system will help but if you still have those kinds of programs operating in the background you will be depriving yourself of the new systems potential performance.
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What's not good there is that Code24 and the Windows Host Audio thing is eating up about 50% of your processor. Under static conditions my CPU only runs around 4%. Do you really need those programs running all the time.
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If you look at the very top of the chart you will see that your memory usage is 62%, so you still have some free memory. However, not certain what you are running but your CPU is at 87% utilization, it's really working away on something. Your GPU is at 7% so it's not really doing anything. If you click on the main column heading say for the CPU it will reorganize the list to show the higher utilizing programs first.
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When I checked out your CPU model on the Intel site it stated that it was launched in 2011. I think you've gotten your money's worth and it's time to consider an upgrade. This would benefit all of your other programs and allow you to work much smoother in significantly more complex plans than the one you provided. You can test to see how slow things can get if you download one of CA's larger sample plans, Grandview is a good one. Open up a 3D camera, turn on all lights, bloom, reflections and shadows. Make a change to the roof and see how long it takes. Switch the camera from standard to PBR and see how slow it gets.
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You can easily check to see if low ram is the issue. Close all of your other programs including your browser and email so CA is only running. Open up task manger and select the Performance tab, this will show the usage of memory and how much is free. In your plan make some changes and see if your memory is exceeded and see whether the lag still persists. If you still have free memory and the lag is still there then you need to look somewhere else. While you are doing this you can also start opening up your other normal programs and watch to see how your memory consumption changes. Personally I think the main issue is your CPU, it's about 9 years old and a lot has changed over the years.
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I had this problem in the past. For some unknown reason some of the file paths under Preferences, General, Folders were not pointing to the correct X12 folder, some were still pointing to my previous X11 folders, make certain to select Show all Program Paths just to make sure. I just changed the folder name and all was good. I can only think that when I upgraded from X11 to X12 that I did not properly migrate things over, likely too excited to try out the new version. Another thing to watch for, after the catalog is downloaded from your browser there will be displayed at the bottom of your screen an option to open the file. When you select this it will automatically run the catalog installation file, for it to know to install this in X12, X12 must be known in the file associations, I've encountered this were the file association did not have my latest version of CA assigned. You can set file associations in windows settings. The alternative is to go to your download folder, find the downloaded file, right click and choose open with, select X12 and all should be good.
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Hanging Pots and Pan Symbols ?????
TheKitchenAbode replied to duckbill4375's topic in Symbols and Content
You can take any individual pot or pan symbol and adjust it's height, it's in the objects DBX. If you open up the symbol DBX you can rotate it in all axis so it will hang down. -
I just loaded your plan on my main system. No issues. Note my main system has the same video card, a GTX 1060 6GB. The most significant difference is my faster CPU.
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I loaded your plan onto my HP Spectra which has an I5 7200U CPU and integrated graphics chip. I get a bit of lag when making changes in a standard graphics view, maybe 3 seconds if I drag a roof plane, but not long enough for the model rebuild pop-up to show. Even so this seems a bit long given the size/complexity of your plan. In order to fully check if there is something in the plan that might be causing this you will need to do a full plan back-up and post it versus just your standard plan file. This type of slowness can be caused by things such as very high resolution textures and high face count models. Your 3D camera settings will also impact on how hard your system has to work, lights, shadows, bloom, reflection and sun follows camera require more processing time. I did notice in the list of materials that there were some that are identified as SKP, I could not find the model to check it out. Just be careful when downloading SKP models or other 3D models from other sites. There are times when these may have extreme face counts or they may use very high resolution textures which can contribute to slowness. If your system is the I5 2400 in your signature you should consider an upgrade if you intend to work on complex plans, 8GB of ram is really bare minimum, 16GB would be much better, especially if you are multitasking with other programs while working in CA. Keep in mind that Windows will eat about 4GB of this which means you only have about 4GB left for all your other programs. Not sure about your hard drive, if it is not an MNVe type you should likely upgrade to one. Not really concerned about your GTX 1060 as in your current system it can easily handle anything that your CPU can throw at it, would only have some concern if your 2 monitors are 4K resolution.
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I would suggest you focus on the GPU first. Your Ryzen 3700x is a competent CPU. A 2060 super is not likely going to provide a significant improvement, might need to go for a NVidia RTX 2070 super of higher. However, keep in mind that PBR'ing is not just a GPU operation, your CPU will always be involved. The degree of this involvement depends on what you are doing when working within a PBR camera view. Zooming, rotating and panning are more reliant on the GPU to generate a sufficient frame rate so these movements appear as smooth as possible. When you make physical changes/alterations to your model then there are a lot of CPU operations that need to be done before your GPU takes over. It's a challenging balancing act if you are trying to find the performance/benefit/cost sweet spot. One advantage of trying out the GPU first is that you can always return it if you are not satisfied with it. Upgrading a CPU is far more complex of a procedure as you may have to upgrade your mother board.