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Agreed - nice trick Eric.

I fought this forever as well. Move to front works most of the time.

https://www.facebook.com/ChiefArchitect?fref=nf Nice feature.

Not saying any of the suggestions are bad or that they are or are not important. Heck I would like to see everything in this thread and everything in the suggestion forum implemented tomorrow. AND the contributions from the users in this forum, suggestions and otherwise, have helped me immensely but business realities will always supersede my need for a new feature. One of those business realities is customer acquisition and customer retention. A new customer will not walk away because the elevations don't update. New customers come from aggressive pricing and a feature set that caters to a large sub set of the architectural and design community. I'd say very nice job in this regard to Chief. On the other hand an old customer might walk if the elevations are not live, and that fine line of features has to be measured against the possibility that an old customer will walk, especially with Chief's SSA business model. I'm not leaving because elevations are not live. Would LOVE to see it but I'm not leaving if they stay the way they are. I bet most are not leaving with elevations the way they are so from a business prospective why put in thousands of man hours to change them when your existing customer base will not shrink and your new user base will most likely even grow because of the current features? Makes no business sense. Every software company also comes up against another hard reality - making great software. Once software gets to a certain stage why upgrade? I'm using some REALLY old programs because they work just fine - will never upgrade - ever, (unless forced by an OS upgrade etc.) That's why IMO Adobe and others are going to a subscription plan for their software? Does anyone really need PhotoShop version LCXIIV when the current version will paint the night sky in any color you choose? No need to upgrade anymore. Can't build a business plan on such uncertain revenues. Subscription plans offer a means to forecast future revenues, upgrades do not. Will Chief get there too? It already is subscription software but when will I/users no longer really need SSA? Or even to upgrade at all? From a business perspective these are very difficult decisions and I think CA has been stellar, no wait I KNOW CA has been stellar. How do I know? Because they are still here, in a very tough business they are still here, and that gets much much respect from me and I'll be happy with my 'dead' elevations until something changes.

To list upcoming features would be business suicide. Why would Chief participate in its own demise? Not gonna happen.

The fixes that go into X7, 8, 9 etc. will not be driven by threads like this. Businesses are not run that way. Think about it. This thread represents a minuscule piece of the CA user base and minuscule doesn't even begin to describe how small a cross section this thread represents. In this thread of very few users there are a couple top requests, one being live elevations, requested by 6 or 8 users, OK make it 10 or 12. Of the thousands of CA users who have no idea what a live elevation is, and who don't use Anno Sets or even Layers for that matter, how does that request become a priority for the Chief engineers? One way is that it is cheap and easy to implement (remember they're running a business). Can you imagine the complexity of adding live elevations? And the cost? There are parts of the entire program that might have to be re-written - from scratch. So even if it was requested by every single user it would end up low on the priority list because of cost constraints. Very easy to understand and one of the reasons I'm very happy with any changes I get. Running a software business is very hard and successful businesses do not cater to the user base, they cater to the marketplace if they want to continue to succeed. As users this is a hard reality to face so we get these threads requesting all kinds of cool things because we think that the business cares. Doug cares. He comes here and tells us so but the business is another animal and it can't care about what you want, it must care about what it needs to succeed. Sometimes it will include a change you want and sometimes it won't but those changes will be driven again, by the marketplace, not by the user base. Another 2 cents

Sadly, this is my perception as well. If you read this thread there are some great ideas and suggestions but how many will we see actually implemented? Few, if any and I don't begrudge the developers. They have an agenda, a business agenda that we the users cannot begin to understand. This thread is the most useful tool any software developer can have but that business agenda will always trump what the users actually want to see changed. It's just the way it is with almost every piece of software. We can scream about stairs and story poles but there's another list of changes we, the users, can know nothing about. That list is based on factors the users typically don't care about like complexity and cost of implementation. On the other hand the developers care everything about complexity and cost of implementation so there exists this great void between what the users want and what the developers will actually deliver. Again I do not begrudge the business decisions that CA makes but I am done deluding myself with thinking that suggestions made in these types of threads move any thing more than bytes through the internet. The changes we'll see will be the changes that are decided in headquarters and may or may not reflect ideas presented in threads like these. Generally I'm pretty happy with new features and appreciate all the hard work it takes to make them so but I've just changed (lowered) my expectations and have learned to adapt to whatever comes my way through the CA development process and be happy with what I get to play with next.

Thanks Gary. I can see all the elements, I just can't change them without painstakingly going through each and every block, changing colors one at a time. If that's how it's done then that's how it's done and I'll muscle through when needed. Was just curious as to what others did.

I ended up looking up some tutorials and learning a bit of ACAD (or DraftSight in this case) and changed the background to white then changed each layer in DrafSight to black. There were a LOT of layers and I didn't get them all but it looks OK in Chief now. Still curious what others do. Anyone? Do you import DWG's Gary? How do you handle all the various ACAD layers and colors?

I have been trying to get a DWG into my Layout literally for hours. I now apparently have mixed imperial and metric units and can't send to Layout. Is there a default or method to change all units to one or the other?

Thanks again for the post Graeme. You're right it does only take 2 seconds, literally, to do 1/50th of the work required to get a usable DWG. The text and arrows are the time consuming bit and in this case there's a LOT of text and arrows. I'm trying a different strategy and will see if I can learn some ACAD and change the original to read all/more black. What do others do with DWG's? Just thrash through it? Is there a better way?

Done and defeated.

+1 to that David. I see 'how to create niche' threads all the time.

Thanks Graeme but I get pretty much what you have with all the different layer colors with no way I can find to change them except choose item, expand block, choose color, next-next for many many different elements. Like each text item is a block of some kind in Rich Text. Select block, unblock, select text, open RT dbx, select text, change to black - for each text item? Is that really how it's done? When looking at the plan you posted I get the following - screen shot. It still has many many elements that are different colors but if I 'select all' they can't be changed so it seems they have to each be chosen, exploded, color changed rearranged etc.? Plus there are white text elements off the screen as well. No way to change all at once? Could have sworn I was OK at this but this one has me flumoxed.

What a horrible feeling. Cannot import this DWG in a readable fashion to save my life. Tried every option, every setting, just get all the great ACAD colors and wonderful jumbled layers. Opened in Draft Sight - even more lost. What do you do when faced with such things? Do you all have to know a little bit of ACAD to succeed? Lost. Is there a quick Draft Sight or ACAD tutorial I might look at?

Or use a pass through with a poly line solid for the backing. Or use Chief's method for a niche as below. http://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-01255/

In X6 each Layout box has an Annotation Set associated with it. If you want to locate boxes in the same location on each page you can copy and paste/hold position each layout box from page to page then change the associated Anno Set for each box. Select the Layout box and 'Open Object' (not double click) and you'll see the Anno Set(s) (and reference sets) you can associate with that box.

I thought I had a grip on importing DWG's but I have a truss layout that comes in every color but black unless I explode every block and re-color every line. There must be an easier method. Here's the DWG file but when I import I get all the crazy colors but no way I can find to change everything to black. Any help greatly appreciated. VALDES DWG TRUSS LAYOUT.zip

When you try again make sure you're in the 3D view.

Alan, Did you see the awnings in the SSA library area? Not sure it would work for you but might be worth a look. You can also create your own symbol in Chief if you want to brush up on another skill.

In a pinch, and not recommended unless you need it for a presentation that's due, you can drag the walls up or down in 3D to cover those open spots. Fixes nothing but the visual and always better to get to the cause, I just can't find the cause.

For some reason the floor framing is framing to the outside wall on the walls where the floor plaforms are open. Don't know why.

Check your roof framing defaults?

I've NEVER used that dbx to set wall finishes and took a long time to even find it. Learn something every day.

Thanks