HumbleChief

...or are we are rejected by our protections?

I have no problem giving people what they want - it literally defines my job - it's what I do - it's a promise I make to the client going in etc. etc. I advise, then get out of the way and get them what they want. Everyone is different though - your call. You could be very upfront if you can't go forward and simply tell them, "I won't put a powder room there." ...and see what happens. Let us know what you decide.

Another method, from a simple google search. https://www.homedesignersoftware.com/support/article/KB-00748/creating-a-screen-porch.html

...me thinks they should.

NO. JUST USE THE CALL OUT IN THE TEXT BOX. LOOKS LIKE THIS.

This post reminds me of how I would like to have variations on Chief's single section symbol.

Looks familiar now that you show that pic. Been forever since I've been on a job using floor trusses. That would be pretty easy to create in a section view but I have no idea how to model it correctly, I guess you could frame it with 2 X 4 beams and such but a lot of work. Maybe I'll nap

Awesome Perry, that's really helpful. I forgot I had the roof plane in there and good reminder to just use the floor system as the roof in this case.

One more detail...

This might be the way you want to frame a trussed floor with a parapet wall. Check the end of the video for some fun that I'll try and resolve.

Balloon framing - or not.

Alan, is this real world construction you're talking about?

Yeah, haven't used that tool for 10 years since I discovered the 3 key. Thanks, I'll remember that next time so as not to distract from the purpose of the video.

I think a roof will serve you better. Here's a brief video outlining Chief's roof behavior.

I am so over trying to solve problems like this in Chief. They are constant and so hard to figure out. I just drag walls around and place p-line solids to get the look I need. I know, I know, I should try and get the model perfect etc. etc. but I just don't have the time to fix these idiosyncrasies within Chief and tired of trying.

Nice Charlie. Don't know how you did it.

Just digging out from just over 20 jobs on my desk. Took an afternoon off the other day for the first time in a couple months. Phone still rings off the hook and had to turn down a couple jobs I couldn't fit in. Too busy is not good and I've been too busy. I'm learning to pace myself and let my clients know they have to wait a bit before I can get to them. After going through what we all went through not that long ago it's very hard to turn work down but sometimes it's the smartest thing to do.

Agreed, there's way too many of these kinds of tools that force users, who are not experts, to waste time looking for those tools in very unexpected places. I've spent many many hours learning those hidden tool locations, which of course is part of learning any software program, but when rotating an object, having something like a graphical protractor is so much easier to locate, understand, and grasp its function. Once someone learns the double click method in Chief it's relatively easy but why so arcane and unusual a tool and location? Maybe completely OT but I just went through this again the other day with the sun angle tool. Sheesh. I opened the dialog box and the sun angle was set to -55 degrees and I wanted the sun to be more overhead. So I thought to myself the 90 degrees must be directly overhead but no it's not. I had to look in the help files to learn that directly overhead is -90 degrees which makes perfect sense to a programmer, somewhere, but to the user it's gobbledy-goook. Why isn't there a graphical representation of the sun we can move? Who can know these things without years of experience? Sigh. So frustrating, and for new users who have to ask how to simply rotate a p-line how can they or anyone else be expected to know these secret handshakes? Chief is just not user friendly in so many ways.

To me it's hard to argue that one method is 'simpler' than the other. What's simpler than double clicking an icon? Or using the transform replicate tool? They are both 'simple' if you understand the tools. The problem to me is that Chief can hide its tools within arcane, secret, and unexpected locations which is a problem the program presents at too many opportunities. The fact you had to ask here on the forum in order to access this hard to access, and badly documented feature makes the (your) point. I only knew about it from a post here as well. Glad you got it worked out.

Johnny, double click the make parallel tool. Select 'rotate entire poly line'. Agreed tools should be more intuitive and perhaps more standard in their application. You can also use the transform/replicate tool and it will rotate the entire p-line to any angle you choose among other actions within the same tool..

I charge the client and the truss company uses the money as a deposit towards the purchase. I use trusses on almost every job.

Didn't know about the property characteristics, thanks for the tip.

You were "brought over from DataQuick", which explains the plan you were grandfathered. I talked to a company rep today and asked about all their plans. There is nothing currently offered that matches the service you have. Great service me thinks but not worth $100 a month to me.

So weird how different people experience different sites differently. I enter the APN, buy the parcel map for $2.61 and download the Tiff file. Takes 3 - 4 minutes total. Scott, you enter the APN, pay $5.00, maybe get it mailed to you, maybe can view it, and give up. When Netronline fails, and it always did for me, give me call I'll walk you through it.