builtright3

The only "Work Around" I know is my honey do list. "Work Around The House"

Don't know if I like that term for CA!

Rethinking my previous posts.  I am a remodeler.  When I want to remodel a ROOM it should include what is on the walls.

i.e. - repair/replace drywall in master bedroom.   I don't look at a room as what is on the floor but the whole room including

walls and ceiling. 

All, thanks for your help but I still don't seem to have a solution.  builtright3 suggested using the "materials area select tool" which works fine for a square room but what if the room is not square.  I would think I should be able to just click in a room and get the materials list including wall board.  Attached is a basement project and I feel I should be able to get the material list for the two finished rooms.

I agree also that you should be able to see all the materials for an individual room when you select "room materials" tool. Is there any way that this could be corrected with CA?

I see what I was doing wrong, now when I select the room again with the tool, the wall comes in as SQ FT not number of boards

Mine come up in numbers of sheets

I not as advanced a you guy's but it seems to me that if your going to have a tool called "Room Material List" that it should be complete or don't have it. 

Maybe that is why Chief came up with the "materials area select tool" because it works great!

If you use the calculate materials with the materials area select tool it will give you everything including your wall and ceiling drywall.

That is a nice tool!

I draw a 16 x 16 bedroom and do a material list.  Sq ft for carpet is correct, LF of baseboard is correct, drywall is incorrect.  It shows only 8 sheets and I would need 16 sheets for the walls.  Also,  why does it not calculate drywall for ceiling or is it only doing the ceiling and not the walls?

I don't appear to be having that issue.

Yes, I forgot about the direction you took so thank you. It solved my problem.

Joey, I opened your plan, used the edit all roof planes tool and changed spacing there. It seemed to work for me.

I didn't think of edit all roofs. I thought when you change the default it changed it every where?

Thank You

That's the cool thing about what Perry has done because you can take a drawing that is finished and make a template out of it. Just reconfigure the floor plan to a square and back away items off to the side so you can bring them back is as needed. If you want you can set up a few different variables simply by when you draw a different type of job you can save as template and do the same thing.

I would if I can remember how

OK (sheepishly raising hand), I'll cop to it.

With the overall tenor of the forum lately and

all the sniveling about Chief's perceived lack

of CAD tools I thought it would be fun to see

what people's reactions would be. I wish I

had thought of the SSA angle while I was

trying to flesh out my phony article with some

plausible sounding techno-babble. Could of

had some real fun there. I was originally going

to create an imaginary publication called

"AutoCAD Weakly"  but it was running

late so I just borrowed a page from the

CADALYST web site and edited it in PSP to

suit my purposes.

 

Hope y'all got a chuckle out of it.

I want some credit! I'm the one who started the "Positive Thoughts" topic because there was a lot of sniveling going on!

I typically always work from my layout first to get to the plan files that I need to edit.

Its not so much I don't know how things work (but still have a lot to learn) it's more of how to organize it. I think with what everyone has shared with me I am very grateful because I have a better understanding of what direction to go now to clean things up. I really like Perry's way of setting up templates and I like Joe's way of organizing details so I learned a lot from both of you and not to mention the input from others that I have not disregarded. Everyone's input is always important to the whole picture.

Thank You!!!

I did all that and I deleted all the framing and started over and set the spacing and rebuild in manually and automatic. I tried it and the spacing does not change. I went out of the plan and back it, I reset everything in every way I could think of. I have to be missing something though unless there is a glitch in the system.

Almost all of mine are in different Plan Files.

1) If you have your main project plan file and 4 other detail plan files that you are sending items to your layout file that doesn't really slow anything down does it?

2) And the second part is does the items sent from the library slow things down the same or more or less?

I think if you want to use the library more I would still keep the details in a plan file so you have a backup. You can always go back in and block it and put it back in the library if you need too.

Ok, so I changed the roof rafter default settings from 24" to 16" and when I rebuild the framing my rafters are still at 24". Never remember having this problem before? Should be simple!

I thing the Chief "gremlins" are attacking again! Or I'm just tired because I have been up most of the night working on this drawing.

I know I have been really needy lately but Help!

Joe & Perry,

I have done all these methods and so I guess I just need to decide which way I want to go so my details aren't so mixed up. Both directions are good but the important part with me is to find consistency.

Thank You

Perry,

Do you build you details in a plan file and send them to the layout or do you build them in the layout file? I've done both and I also have scanned details that are in my library. I need to make up my mind and bring everything together and clean things up. Can you give me a little input on that? Or anyone else that wants to comment I would be grateful.

I guess you almost have to have a plan file just for details? I have all my stuff in the library but I like that you already have detail in your template. The library gets to congested and so its not easy to always find stuff quickly. Now that I working on a larger scale this is important.

Got good news, I guess, I think I'm also having more grandkids # 13 and 14, in 8 months

I'm 50 and this is my first. Now I know can understand how my friends feel. Its pretty cool!!!

when roof plane is selected, zoom in to label. there is a grab handle in the label text, grab and move.

See Attachment

By default the two handles are right next to each other (one larger than the other) and when I grab it the whole roof plane moved so when I zoomed in on it like you told me I could see it.

Thank You!!!

Thank you again Perry!

My plan is looking much better now. A lot cleaner without all the interior walls!

Yep ,I never use that either

I just did this short video on templates

 

http://screencast.com/t/2AD1ckxAEH7

Thank you Perry for sharing this video. Been using Chief for a lot of years but never quite enough to spend the time putting together good working templates and annotation sets. But now that I want to sit on my $%$# more I'm trying to learn more to be productive so I can enjoy my new grand baby!!!

Oh for heaven sakes!

Thank You

Thanks Perry

The whole roof plane??? I don't get it! I'm feeling pretty stupid right now! Or are you messing with me? Please come down to my education level.