Two questions: brick returns above roof and how to dress up a protruding stairwell

[DRyeHD]

I'm dealing with two issues on a plan that are taking way to long.  They are probably simple fixes but I'm spinning my wheels.

 

1.  I can't get brick to display on a high side wall as it would sit in a piece of angle iron just above a shingled roof.  I'm trying to use a knee wall with a brick veneer top and 4" interor bottom.  See pictures for how it's going.

2.  I've got a stairwall that comes out into the garage as it goes up into the bonus room.  My stairs are ok.  My  problem is getting the angled pieces that cover the stairs in the garage to snap well, I don't know how to get the bottom to cover with drywall, and there is a space in the ceiling where the stairwell goes through the ceiling that I can't figure out how to get to go away.

 

I've attached pictures of both issues and the .pln file.  Any input is appreciated.

Lewis.zip

[PitMan71]

I have never had any success at getting the stairs to look right when protruding through the floor like that. they seem to be bugs in the software. The only thing I know to do would be to use 3d solids instead of wall objects to close it up. Having said that I never have even wasted my time on it.

As far as turning the brick like you are wanting to do, because there are two roofs over there that you must trim around, you will manually need to adjust the roof planes (be sure to turn off special snapping in the roof plane objects) and then adjust the bottom and top of the pony wall to be where you want. these little details can be a head ache. I will say that you might want to adjust your roof to where you only have one roof edge to connect with on the sides of that return. Not sure you want that small dead valley there.

only other thing is you have the brick of the front facing wall extent ending into the bedroom which is not desirable. The wall object is just following the intersection directive which in this case is not what you want. This is where I wish we had a bit more control over wall object intersections. There is probably a work around that I am unaware of, but nothing comes to mind right now. I will keep looking at it to see if I can come up with a solution.

 

Shane

 

[PitMan71]

Alright. I found a solution. For the pony walls that bisect the rooms creating the return above, just create a pony wall with the change occurring at the ceiling, 109.125. brick above and interior below. Then create the front wall as a pony wall at the same height with brick 4 above and below. this will allow you to move the upper and lower parts f of that wall independently. the get close to what you want to accomplish. Then using the edit wall layer extents tool to pull the drywall from the bisecting wall forward to cover the face of the brick coming through the wall from the front wall. this should be done after pulling that lower portion of the front facing wall out of the room as much as you can.

 

clear as mud, right. Things should not be this mysterious to fix. There must be a better way. Even though I fixed this, the chances of me remembering these exact steps the next time its encountered is unlikely.

Lewis.plan.zip

[DRyeHD]

@PitMan71 thanks for taking a look at this.  I've not been at the computer since Friday morning but will follow what you describe when I get back at it tomorrow.  I'll let you know how it turns out.

[JonathanK]

Maybe I'm not understanding issue #1 fully, but can't you just open the wall in question, click on the "Roof" tab, and check "Lower Wall Type if Split by Butting Roof"?

 

Set that as your Interior wall type, and move on down the line...