Area Unit Schedule Setup for Units?

[OnlineBuilder2]

I've never used the Room Size Schedule but I need it for a unit complex. The only way I can see how to do it is to set the Room Types as each unit number. But they won't group together.

Ideally I want internal, external and total sizes for each unit.

Anyone know how to set this up?

[JiAngelo]

Keep the room types their defaults.  

 

Open a room dbx.

• Create new custom schedule categories Unit 1, Unit 2, Unit 3, etc...
• Create new custom object field "Unit No."

Bulk select the rooms inside of Unit 1, open the Room Specification DBX, Schedule and select Custom> "Unit 1".  Leave the existing room categories alone.

 

Go to Object Information and enter Field Value 1 for Unit No.

Bulk select the rooms inside of Unit 2 and per the instructions above, Custom>"Unit 2" and OI Field Value 2 for Unit No.

Keep doing this for each Unit.

 

Now create a room Schedule.  For columns/rows add "Unit No." to include.  Then on General deselect all room categories.  Select only Custom categories > Unit 1, Unit 2, Or Unit 3  OR you can select all of them if you want to see the entire building in one table.  (If those are all the custom categories you have, then you can simply select custom to select all.)

 

In the example below I was working on a house, selected 4 rooms on the right side for Unit 1, and 7 rooms on the left for Unit 2.  I also used 01 and 02 in case you have over 9 units in a building.  You could also use 001, 101, 201, if you had rooms on different floors.  

 

 

This way it doesn't matter if you have 3 kitchens, 3 baths, 9 bedrooms in a building, each gets assigned to its Unit No.

I haven't messed with my room defaults and I don't even have to delete what I've done within this plan - my schedules don't group information in that manner.

 

The categories helps you sort/filter a Schedule.  But you can't include category on the schedule so that is why you need the Unit No. to identify within each schedule what is being shown to you (a single unit, groups of units, or all units.)

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

[JKEdmo]

2 hours ago, JiAngelo said:

Hope this helps.

John,

 

Thanks for this tutorial and your other detailed posts.  Hope to try this one day as I become more Chief-proficient.

 

Jim

 

 

[ValleyGuy]

@JiAngelo has a great way to do it in X16, but you won't be able to use it in X14 as there is no Object Information header. You can achieve similar results, you just need to drive the Custom Category from the schedule and not the Room Specification. 

 

[JiAngelo]

Chief needs a "build group" setting similar to "roof group" setting.

 

Multiplex units could share the same roof group, but rooms belong to different build groups and each gets it's own living area just like detached buildings do in the same plan file.

 

Schedules could be limited by build group or include a column in the schedule like I did with unit no.

[ValleyGuy]

1 hour ago, JiAngelo said:

Chief needs a "build group" setting similar to "roof group" setting.

 

Multiplex units could share the same roof group, but rooms belong to different build groups and each gets it's own living area just like detached buildings do in the same plan file.

 

Schedules could be limited by build group or include a column in the schedule like I did with unit no.

That would be a great idea. We have had a good week talking about schedules and the need for improvement. Maybe make a request to keep the momentum going.

[OnlineBuilder2]

Im using X14. It doesnt have the Object Information option.

 

I tried putting the units in Room Type and Custom, but they won't group together. It looks like it tries to match all the items in the schedule. So if the Unit 1 has different room sizes, it will break them down. I just want the total Room 1 size. There doesnt seem to be a way to do tis. 

 

[ValleyGuy]

3 hours ago, OnlineBuilder2 said:

Im using X14. It doesnt have the Object Information option.

 

.... just read a little further along in the thread above to where it says "@JiAngelo has a great way to do it in X16, but you won't be able to use it in X14 as there is no Object Information header." This may help.

 

 

3 hours ago, OnlineBuilder2 said:

I tried putting the units in Room Type and Custom, but they won't group together. It looks like it tries to match all the items in the schedule. So if the Unit 1 has different room sizes, it will break them down. I just want the total Room 1 size.

 

In your original post, you wanted ...."Ideally I want internal, external and total sizes for each unit." I am a little unclear now of the...'I just want the total Room 1 size.' I'm guessing that you mean the total size for the whole Unit 1.

 

Here are two different types of schedules used in X14. Maybe one or both of these will help. Without getting into Macros, one schedule with multiple totals, for each of the units showing the individual rooms grouped and then total, isn't possible. You could stack the individual schedules tightly on your layout to appear as one table.

 Side Note: I wouldn't mess around with room types at all - a kitchen is a kitchen whether it is unit 103 or unit 814. You want to attach each specific kitchen to a specific schedule for each unit. Let the schedule parameters define the different unit groupings, it will be much easier. 

 

I did change the Room Names to show in the plan view.

 

Note the columns chosen for each schedule.

 

This is the Final Product...

 

 

This is the Poly Line Schedule on the left above (only one area measurement per poly line)...

 

 

 

This is the Room Area Schedules with the individual rooms listed then Total (both interior and standard area included)...

 

 

[JiAngelo]

Follow @ValleyGuy's instructions. Leave Room Type alone and use it as Chief intended.